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You knew it wouldn't be long until the right wingers began ignoring the effectiveness of the mitigation strategies in terms of the statistical improvement regarding COVID-19.
Don't try blaming this on right wing. Its left, right, up, down and center. You have people in ever demographic who think like this.
You are correct. We had to slow the spread to avoid the health care system being overwhelmed by the number of people needing hospital care. It nearly failed in NYC (but thankfully didn't), even with this.
True, with the additional note that keeping the hospital system from being overwhelmed does decrease the mortality rate.
The original number of 240,000 was based on models using assumptions.
The latest numbers are based on actual data, providing a clearer picture of what can be expected.
Yep. The models were apparently wrong. Again. By a lot. This is typical for these sorts of 'models' and also for these sorts of alarmist predictions by so-called "experts".
You are correct. We had to slow the spread to avoid the health care system being overwhelmed by the number of people needing hospital care from this disease (~20% of those infected). The health care system nearly breached its capacity to handle these patients in NYC (but thankfully didn't), even with this.
Which is another fallacy. The hospitals are EMPTY and either laying people off or sending them home. Our system would have been able to handle it looking at the situation and seeing the hospital vacancies at this point.
Of course our government, nor Media will admit it after all this is over, but we did NOT have to collapse the economy and shutdown the country and much of the world over this. Watch all the excuses after this is over. Of course they will erroneously cite all the disaster we inflected on ourselves as the reason we avoided the ANTHRAX like effects of the Chinese Flu.
I've already said this in another thread, but the number of CV-related deaths has been understated, and we won't have the full scope of fatalities until some time later when estimates are issued by the CDC and WHO. We are currently only counting the number of deaths resulting from confirmed cases of COVID-19. In New York, it is estimated that an additional 150-185 deaths a day are in unconfirmed COVID cases. The testing is not sufficiently robust to capture the full scale of the outbreak.
There were "only" 3,433 confirmed swine flu-related deaths in the U.S. in 2009. The number of estimated deaths ranges from 8,860 to 18,306. The estimated deaths for CV-19 could be 2-3 times higher than the official tally of confirmed deaths. But we all know people will call the estimated number a ploy to make Trump look bad even though the death toll for nearly every pandemic is an estimate.
I for one am glad that all of this has done exactly what it was supposed to do. This is success, if it pans out, not failure. If we did all the mitigating efforts and still lost 200K-300K people, then it would be a failure.
Don't try blaming this on right wing. Its left, right, up, down and center. You have people in ever demographic who think like this.
I think people like Dr Fauci are the problem. He is your typical career government employee, been in his position since ‘84, his group has an annual budget of 5.9 billion and produces nothing. It’s not as if his group would ever develop a vaccine for anything, that will always come from private sector entities. I haven’t read his full bio, but it wouldn’t surprise me if he has NEVER worked in the field as a physician dealing with patient care.
Unfortunately, every state a local government are full of these types, advising our elected leaders.
Which is another fallacy. The hospitals are EMPTY and either laying people off or sending them home. Our system would have been able to handle it looking at the situation and seeing the hospital vacancies at this point.
Of course our government, nor Media will admit it after all this is over, but we did NOT have to collapse the economy and shutdown the country and much of the world over this. Watch all the excuses after this is over. Of course they will erroneously cite all the disaster we inflected on ourselves as the reason we avoided the ANTHRAX like effects of the Chinese Flu.
It's not a fallacy at all, you are still not getting it.
Let's say we had done nothing. Estimates are currently from CDC that 20-60% of the US population will eventually be exposed to the virus. Let's take the middle figure at 40%.
That means roughly 330 * 0.4 = 132 * 0.2 that require hospital care = 26 million Americans would have required hospitalization. That's 26x more than the number of hospital beds in the US, which means many of those people + other people that need the hospital for other normal accidents etc. would have died.
I think people like Dr Fauci are the problem. He is your typical career government employee, been in his position since ‘84, his group has an annual budget of 5.9 billion and produces nothing.
Only if you don't value scientific research.
I am aware that disposition is very common on the right.
Science and research is always cut or attempted to be cut under every R administration.
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