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View Poll Results: Are you happy with Trump’s deal to reopen the Federal government for 3 weeks?
I’m happy with the deal 41 36.61%
It’s ok 50 44.64%
I’m unhappy with this deal 21 18.75%
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-25-2019, 04:11 PM
 
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This is a lie.

800,000 Americans have worked for over a month without a paycheck. This is no way to run a government.

There is no "border crisis" this month, just as there was none last month, or the month before. The numbers have been going down for the last decade or better.

There are a lot more effective and cost-efficient ways to deal with the problem than borrowing billions from China to build Trump's medieval wall.
No, it's not "a lie"

The numbers have been going down? No, they have not. We have yet another caravan heading this way.

This doesn't change the fact that democrats put illegal aliens ahead of the millions of suffering underemployed and unemployed American citizens. And they behaved this way well before the shutdown.

At one time democrats truly looked out for the poor, working and middle classes. Those democrats of yore would have been horrified to discover that their constituents were either seeing their wages depressed or were being displaced in the workforce all due to illegal immigration. And they would have done something about it---and I don't mean amnesty. There was a time when I knew democrats wouldn't tolerate their constituents being exploited. You could count on dems to stand up for their constituents. Somewhere along the line, dems did a 180. Now they fight tooth and nail for illegal aliens. The heck with Americans. I'm sure they're laughing themselves sick over how they duped so many into believing they still care about Americans.

All that said, neither party is looking out for Americans these days. However, at one time I expected much, much better from the dems and they didn't let me down. It's a real shame that they lost their way.

There is nothing "medieval" about a wall. If walls are "medieval", then why do Americans build them around their properties? Or why do they put tall fences around their properties? Since you don't know the answer to that one, I'll tell you --- they do it because fences and walls are good deterrents. Are they 100% effective? Of course not. Anyone who is bound and determined to breach a wall or fence, will find a way. However, fences and walls do deter the majority.

The BP wants border barriers. Why do you think you know better than the BP when it comes to this issue?
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:12 PM
 
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What exactly did the Democrats get?
Everybody got an opened government which needed to happen. People were getting desperate and it was just a matter of time that there would have been an air disaster with air traffic controllers losing sleep.
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:12 PM
 
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Republicans want everyone (citizen or otherwise) but billionaires to be slaves or starve to death, if their actions also speak.
So do democrats. Don't pretend otherwise.
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:13 PM
 
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OP, it also explains why he hasn't made up a horrible nickname for her. He knows she will unleash the subpoenas.
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:15 PM
 
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Yeah, she did. And she's a damn sight smarter than Trump at her job. If Nancy's too old - then Mitch is too old.


I'll agree that they BOTH should either retire or step down in 2020.
No she didn’t lol.

What exactly did she win?
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:16 PM
 
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It would be nothing but a political stunt so the talking heads can drone on about things they and the public have no understanding of.








That is none of my business and neither is it yours.








He has been audited numerous times, unless you have evidence of something illegal what is in those returns is his business. He should expect the same privacy everyone else does.
Obama and every POTUS before him since the 1970's has done so why should Cadet Bone Spurs the birhter leader extraordinaire be any different. Because he's a thief and owned by a foreign adversary maybe? This grifter trolled Obama for his birth certificate which isn't standard protocol for a POTUS to provide so Trump the thief gets no free pass.
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:18 PM
 
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You would suggest that weaponizing private information that has been audited by the IRS numerous times is acceptable?
Didn’t Trump ask Russia to hack into and release Hillary’s emails? I love witnessing utter hypocrisy.
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:19 PM
 
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So much for Trump being a master negotiator. Maybe he should reread Art of the Deal, because Trump got WORKED by Democrats

Bwahahahaha
He actually negotiated less for himself than was originally offered by Pelosi. Her original offer included $1.3 Billion. Now he gets nothing but an opening to start again.
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:19 PM
 
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Didn’t Trump ask Russia to hack into and release Hillary’s emails? I love witnessing utter hypocrisy.
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Old 01-25-2019, 04:22 PM
 
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Shrug.

I doubt that anyone besides Trumpistas take the idea of a national emergency declaration very seriously.

He backed off of the shutdown because of his falling popularity ratings and R dissension in Congress.

Do you really think that his ratings would be improved if he declared a national emergency? Please explain.



His ratings won't be negatively affected since no one will go without pay.



The democrats will be affected if they refuse to negotiate and end up losing help for DACA recipients, etc. They really have overplayed their hand this time around because now they can't complain that 800,000 people are not getting paid.

And of course, Pelosi showed 0 compassion for the families of those killed by illegals or the danger drug cartels pose for those of us who live on, or near the border. Hell, she didn't have enough class to attend Officer Singh's funeral.
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