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Old 10-28-2018, 10:39 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Originally Posted by jbtornado View Post
For so called fiscal conservatives.. how do we afford this too?
Depending on the state, concealed carry permits range in price. NY is ridiculous.

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Is every building in America now going to have to hire 5 full time security guards?
No. Doesn't need to be 5 full time guards.

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I thought you were all about individual freedoms yet now you think we need this.
We are. Hence, encouragement for you to exercise your right to keep and bear arms.

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Watch trump and republicans make laws that require security guards all over and we force businesses to spend money on this OR spend our own tax dollars enabling this garbage
I don't see that happening. Loosening regulations and laws that allow you your right to defend yourself, your community maybe.
I'd volunteer to go stand outside a school or church armed. For free. A form of community service.

What I have proposed before, wouldn't cost any tax payer a dime. I can get 200 I shoot and compete with that would do it too. Plus the people they know.
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Old 10-28-2018, 10:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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We don’t need some self appointed Rambo saving the day, I will stick with LE.
This. I cant imagine being on my local bus with a bunch of people carrying a concealed gun. Waay too many hotheads as it is.
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Old 10-28-2018, 10:50 PM
 
Location: PSL
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This. I cant imagine being on my local bus with a bunch of people carrying a concealed gun. Waay too many hotheads as it is.
How would you know they're even carrying if it's concealed? Going to reach in our crotch to find out? Lift up our shirts?
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Old 10-28-2018, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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You have forgotten about Pulse already? Armed cop who in fact engaged the shooter to be driven to cover by the firepower of an AR15 type weapon...

So you want not just an armed guard but a standby SWAT level guard? For a weekly church service?

How about having the Feds supply them...Only a 100 billion or so and we save a few lives. After all it is the Fed Constitution that allows these shooters to be armed with semi auto weapons capable of overcoming a single well trained guard.

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The fire arm at Pulse was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_MCX
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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We don’t need some self appointed Rambo saving the day, I will stick with LE.
That's just what the people in the synagogue in Pittsburgh did. How did that work out for them?

Still haven't seen any answers to the questions asked in the OP:
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How many of those people in Pittsburgh would be alive today if there had been guards?

Yes, it's sad that we seem to need armed guards in some places to safeguard our families, friends etc.

Does anybody have a better idea? One that works as well as this one (armed guards) did in Los Angeles in 1999?
Mr. Goodnight, what is your answer?
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I thought you were all about individual freedoms yet now you think we need this.
How does what I think, affect your individual freedoms?

Aside from accentuating your freedom to whine, that is?
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:30 PM
 
Location: California
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Why wasn't he picked up beforehand? Well. I highly doubt this scumbag was a sociable being. Probably a basement dwelling loner with 0 friends. So I'm sure he's had only social media as his only source of interaction with humans.
Seems to be a common denominator with most mass killers. Do they have something fundamentally wrong mentally or emotionally I wonder? Or are they a product of something else?
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:40 PM
 
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Depending on the state, concealed carry permits range in price. NY is ridiculous.



No. Doesn't need to be 5 full time guards.



We are. Hence, encouragement for you to exercise your right to keep and bear arms.



I don't see that happening. Loosening regulations and laws that allow you your right to defend yourself, your community maybe.
I'd volunteer to go stand outside a school or church armed. For free. A form of community service.

What I have proposed before, wouldn't cost any tax payer a dime. I can get 200 I shoot and compete with that would do it too. Plus the people they know.
People shouldnt have to get some Govt issued permit in order to carry or conceal a weapon in the first place.

Besides that, who is actually giving the permits...oh Gee, its law enforcement!! Yeah, thats real intelligent to think they are the best group to handle such a thing!! LOL
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:54 PM
 
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This all sounds extremely suspicious to me...that the shooter would say those kinds of things after the attack...its almost like these shootings are being planned and 'scripted' in order to further divide the people.
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:59 PM
 
Location: AZ
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He was angry at the media. Jews control the media.
Prove it. Go look up the board of directors for the six media conglomerates in this country; at “worst” 1/10 are Jewish.
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