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President Trump remarked recently that when another Jew-hating slimeball killed 11 in a synagogue in Pittsburgh, there would likely have been fewer (or no) casualties if the synagogue had had armed guards.
Recent history from 1999 bears out what he said, despite screeches from the usual leftists. A demented man drove to one Jewish institution after another, looking for Jews to murder. At the first three, he found the places had armed guards, so he didn't stop, but drove away without harming anyone. Then he finally came to one that did not have armed guards. He stopped, got out, walked in, and shot five people.
How many of those people in Pittsburgh would be alive today if there had been guards?
Yes, it's sad that we seem to need armed guards in some places to safeguard our families, friends etc.
Does anybody have a better idea? One that works as well as this one did in Los Angeles in 1999?
The 1999 Los Angeles Jewish Community Center shooting occurred on August 10, 1999, at around 10:50 a.m. PT, when white supremacist Buford O. Furrow, Jr. walked into the lobby of the North Valley Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills and opened fire with a semi-automatic weapon, firing 70 shots into the complex. The gunfire wounded five people: three children, a teenage counselor, and an office worker. Shortly thereafter, Furrow murdered a mail carrier, fled the state, and finally surrendered to authorities.
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On August 7, Furrow bought a used red Chevrolet van in Tacoma, Washington and loaded it with five rifles, two pistols, 6,000 rounds of ammunition and a flak jacket. Furrow considered attacking three Jewish institutions: the Skirball Cultural Center, the American Jewish University and the Simon Wiesenthal Center's Museum of Tolerance, but security measures presented too much of a problem.
President Trump remarked recently that when another Jew-hating slimeball killed 11 in a synagogue in Pittsburgh, there would likely have been fewer (or no) casualties if the synagogue had had armed guards.
Recent history from 1999 bears out what he said, despite screeches from the usual leftists. A demented man drove to one Jewish institution after another, looking for Jews to murder. At the first three, he found the places had armed guards, so he didn't stop, but drove away without harming anyone. Then he finally came to one that did not have armed guards. He stopped, got out, walked in, and shot five people.
How many of those people in Pittsburgh would be alive today if there had been guards?
Yes, it's sad that we seem to need armed guards in some places to safeguard our families, friends etc.
Does anybody have a better idea? One that works as well as this one did in Los Angeles in 1999?
The 1999 Los Angeles Jewish Community Center shooting occurred on August 10, 1999, at around 10:50 a.m. PT, when white supremacist Buford O. Furrow, Jr. walked into the lobby of the North Valley Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills and opened fire with a semi-automatic weapon, firing 70 shots into the complex. The gunfire wounded five people: three children, a teenage counselor, and an office worker. Shortly thereafter, Furrow murdered a mail carrier, fled the state, and finally surrendered to authorities.
(snip)
On August 7, Furrow bought a used red Chevrolet van in Tacoma, Washington and loaded it with five rifles, two pistols, 6,000 rounds of ammunition and a flak jacket. Furrow considered attacking three Jewish institutions: the Skirball Cultural Center, the American Jewish University and the Simon Wiesenthal Center's Museum of Tolerance, but security measures presented too much of a problem.
I don’t see the August 7 story anywhere, do you have a reliable source? He took an $800 cab ride to the shooting Aug 10 but he drove around to several places on Aug 7 in his car. It doesn’t make sense.
The Pittsburgh shooter shot three cops as it is. What chance would have an armed guard have when the shooter is wearing a bullet proof vest and has an assault rifle, not to mention the element of surprise?
Trump wasn't blaming the synagogue as much as highlighting that security relies on force, and exclusion.
It is apropos of current events - In some ways its a close tie-in to our current problems caused by the same lack of force and exclusion on our borders and in our institutions used by the public, with regards to our current population of INVADERS.
The parallel is that much like the synagogue, the American people are helpless to defend themselves against those who present a threat, unless you have force at your disposal to wield if exclusion is not accomplished.
In other words, you should see this comment and the entire context as the same parable: if you want to protect yourself, you must take actions that allow you to do that!
Right, it's obviously much better to hire armed guards for every single building in the country rather than make it more difficult for a hateful lunatic to get a gun.
The Pittsburgh shooter shot three cops as it is. What chance would have an armed guard have when the shooter is wearing a bullet proof vest and has an assault rifle, not to mention the element of surprise?
Why can't the guard have a vest too? Why can't there be plainsclothes security officers who have a vest and a long gun as well?
also, I'm not aware the shooter had an "assault rifle". It seems to have been an AR-15, just a regular civilian rifle, semi-auto.
Not a full auto weapon available only to police and military (unless by special status/arrangement/application/tax/process if you're not a LEO).
So the shooter has no special equipment advantages over an armed guard (or guards - especially if you have multiple guards)
Trump wasn't blaming the synagogue as much as highlighting that security relies on force, and exclusion.
It is apropos of current events - In some ways its a close tie-in to our current problems caused by the same lack of force and exclusion on our borders and in our institutions used by the public, with regards to our current population of INVADERS.
The parallel is that much like the synagogue, the American people are helpless to defend themselves against those who present a threat, unless you have force at your disposal to wield if exclusion is not accomplished.
In other words, you should see this comment and the entire context as the same parable: if you want to protect yourself, you must take actions that allow you to do that!
Its common sense.
We are at the point in this country where there are too many wackos of the left and right that are looking to shoot up all houses of worship. I have lived a quarter to half a mile from a synagogue nearly all my life. If there is any type of disruption there is an NYPD presence parked outside. St. Patricks Cathedral has a 24/7 NYPD presence. The NYPD can't watch all houses of worship but, the parishes themselves should be pro-active and have some type of roving armed security as a deterrent.
Yes, long after he had already fulfilled his wish to shoot 20 other innocent people.
If there had been armed guards, he would have known he would never be able to shoot 20 people, he would be too busy dealing with cops... and maybe too dead.
Frequently these nutcases want to make headlines that keep blazing long after they're dead. With armed guards, they have much less chance of doing so. And they know it.
Again, if that synagogue had had armed guards, how many people who are now dead, would have been alive instead?
I don’t see the August 7 story anywhere, do you have a reliable source? He took an $800 cab ride to the shooting Aug 10 but he drove around to several places on Aug 7 in his car. It doesn’t make sense.
The example was from 1999.
The cab ride was after the shooting, when he fled.
The point of the OP is that the shooter rejected targets where he would face armed opposition.
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