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Old 07-20-2018, 10:52 PM
 
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California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Texas. And yet the other 42 will have 84% of the power of the senate?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.536311a75859
I don't know if I buy that. When you look at the amount of white flight in just the state of CA alone over the last decade, it's hard not to imagine that cities like Portland, Seattle, Boise or even Spokane aren't going to experience more and more growth because of it.

When Texas and Florida become minority majority states (and they will), you will see the same type of flight as we're currently seeing in CA. It's already happening in South TX an FL.

I'm saying this as a brown person that's originally from southern CA. White folks be leaving like cockroaches when you turn the lights on. Especially those of the more conservative flavor.
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Old 07-20-2018, 10:53 PM
 
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How many mother-in-laws will that be?
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Old 07-21-2018, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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This is our country and our voice is the only one that should matter. It shouldn't be an electoral vote by state. Why does Montana get 3 electoral votes when they only have a population of 1 million. Yet Maryland has a population of over 6 million and get 10 electoral votes. Let the people decide.
Kind of sound like a White Georgia Plantation owner @ 1860, don't you? Think about it......
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Old 07-21-2018, 06:59 AM
 
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The situation is entirely different. The founders may have had good reason or they may simply have done it to sell the package...which was not an easy sale. So to presume we should continue on the same line is pretty much absurd. The only people who wish to continue this are that set that are advantaged by it.

Rationally though the time of the electoral college has passed.
This is what so many originalists fail to acknowledge. Much of the constitution was written to get the slave states to buy in, not because the founders thought that was the right way to set up our government.
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Old 07-21-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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On second thought, that's too many mother-in-laws.
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Old 07-21-2018, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Advocating proportional power for areas based on population, not arbitrary borders.
so you are advocating the west coast, the east coast and the urban areas effectively rule the country while the midwest would virtually have no say? you support the tyranny of the majority?
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Old 07-21-2018, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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so you are advocating the west coast, the east coast and the urban areas effectively rule the country while the midwest would virtually have no say? you support the tyranny of the majority?
And do you support letting states representing less than 10% of the population block Constitutional Amendments?

What do call that? Tyranny of the minuscule minority?
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Old 07-21-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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And do you support letting states representing less than 10% of the population block Constitutional Amendments?

What do call that? Tyranny of the minuscule minority?
You call it constitutional governance .
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Old 07-21-2018, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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You call it constitutional governance .
By whatever name it is still absurd.
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Old 07-21-2018, 09:13 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Texas. And yet the other 42 will have 84% of the power of the senate?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.536311a75859
And that is pretty dangerous. A thread in the NYC forum brought to be of the research of John B. Calhoun describing the collapse in behavior as a result of overcrowding.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM
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