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Old 06-30-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: New Jersey (Europe Sep ‘19)
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Still 50 years behind Europe, but perhaps they may be a hope in next few decades that America will become more like Western and Northern Europe

5 weeks paid vacation, paid parental leave, free/low cost of college tuition, lower income inequality, etc. here we go! Younger generation today are screwed by the baby boomers!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/28/polit...ics/index.html

 
Old 06-30-2018, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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As wealth inequality increases expect to see more leftists.
 
Old 06-30-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: USA
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Millenials just don't want to work. The best thing you can do for yourself is observe your overcome obstacles. If you don't do that anything is handed to you, then you gain mastery, and you lose confidence. Millenials were easily persuaded that Capitalism is at fault due to the Occupy Wall Street movement. That was government action intruding and interfering with transactions that they had no right in dealing with. Now you're insisting to have them access to more power? How else do you think college debt is so high? Because of government involvement. How else do you think healthcare is so expensive? Because of government involvement.

Income inequality is a futile issue. I may have less money than Bill Gates but I'm doing fine? It all boils down to envy. Envy is dangerous. Capitalists want us to emulate those who succeed. Envy just introduces excuses, and without envy we must face the notion that we can change our own reality. Capitalism is more moral than Socialism. You're hurting the very people you're trying to help.
 
Old 06-30-2018, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Millenials just don't want to work.
Yea thats it . That would explain why most millennials are working multiple jobs. This kind of elitism though will also fuel more leftism.
 
Old 06-30-2018, 05:07 PM
 
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I do a lot of work for one of the largest business consulting firms in the world and when C-suite execs discuss the Millennial generation, who is just coming into its own in the business world now, all they can ever talk about is how this generation is changing the culture of the workplace everywhere they work.

Millennials demand work/life balance and flex time, the ability to make their own hours instead of working a straight 9 to 5 like their Baby Boomer predecessors did. And there is such a talent shortage out there in the tech world that they are giving them whatever they ask for.

And it just so happens that what they are asking for are many of the things the OP mentions, and that the rest of the civilized world provides to their workforce as a matter of course.

This definitely is a very socialist-minded generation. They will lead this country into the 21st Century despite how hard the right is resisting it and trying to keep it at bay. They can't come to power soon enough for me.

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Old 06-30-2018, 05:07 PM
 
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Just look what Europe and other 1st world nations has put up with that the US never did... War.

When your nation is ruined due to full scale mechanized warfare, where almost everything is ruined, you need a government to step up with finances, rebuild infrastructure and directs funds to where they are most effective.
It also breeds unity, that we are all in this together and need to help each other.

In the US after most of its veterans became older in the 70-80s it started downhill, with me-me-me-me-me mentality. Slashing or trying to kill programs that made the post war American workers the most productive and prosperous workers on the planet.. it has just stagnated and gone wrong in the US since Regan.

And still Republican workers are voting themselves less and less benefits and services. Because of me-me-me-me...



Millennials is the most informed generation ever on the planet because of growing up WITH the internett... easy access to information has showed them, that other 1st world nations are doing much better and treating their workers MUCH better, with far more benefits. Why should they not vote to experience what their grandparents experienced for a short while in the 1950s social programs?
 
Old 06-30-2018, 05:16 PM
 
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Millenials just don't want to work.
This type of rhetoric is a gift to the left. Its like you are actively recruiting for the left. You have gone off the deep end with age-based identity politics. Just like telling voters to stop whining and check their "white privilege" rhetoric is a gift from leftists that keep on giving to the right. Race-based identity politics.

Who will win? Do you guys even yourself out?
 
Old 06-30-2018, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Still 50 years behind Europe, but perhaps they may be a hope in next few decades that America will become more like Western and Northern Europe

5 weeks paid vacation, paid parental leave, free/low cost of college tuition, lower income inequality, etc. here we go! Younger generation today are screwed by the baby boomers!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/28/polit...ics/index.html


None of your examples are socialism. Socialism is government ownership of the means of production.


Venezuela is socialist, at least to a significant degree. The nations of Western and Northern Europe all have market economies, not socialism.
 
Old 06-30-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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None of your examples are socialism. Socialism is government ownership of the means of production.


Venezuela is socialist, at least to a significant degree. The nations of Western and Northern Europe all have market economies, not socialism.
Venezuela has massive inequality, extreme corruption, private business run most of the economy, and taxes are a small fraction as a share of GDP. Venezuela is just a classic third world oligarchy. The oligarchs have simply labeled themselves "socialist" to appeal to the people and right wingers and some left wingers eat it up.
 
Old 06-30-2018, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Venezuela has massive inequality, extreme corruption, private business run most of the economy, and taxes are a small fraction as a share of GDP. Venezuela is just a classic third world oligarchy. The oligarchs have simply labeled themselves "socialist" to appeal to the people and right wingers and some left wingers eat it up.
Not true. Go do some reading about Venezuela. They adopted socialist policies, not just socialist labeling after Chavez took over. They adopted government ownership and operation of food production for example. Collectivization of farms, and even state-owned grocery store chains. Socialism. Chavez was a persuaded, true-believer socialist.
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