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I was a professional woman for decades in a male dominated field and have the experience to say the new feminists seem determined to turn back the clock on the gains women have made in the workplace to Victorian times with this fainting couch nonsense.
I agree - I read the Librarian's entire speech, she references "mansplaining" well before she gets to the Star Wars & Star Trek posters. When a Male is Mentoring a female - he is likely to be accused of "splaining" in today's Crazy World and MicroAggressions added to that. Nutters are in every field, she is one in Library Science (which she has no degree in at all). Her field is Social Justice Warrior, not STEM or even Tech - so she spoke of what HER field is to the coding group.
I live in an entire Family of STEM professions. Engineers, Chemists, Biology, Physics, Population Biology Archeology (which is close) and a famous Science Journalist. About half women, half men and each and every one of them has been a Mentor and is currently a Mentor. NONE of them has really had to deal with the new wave of "feminists" and their weird ideas ...... perhaps it's just that the level of expertise they work with is just too far above that. Every one of them has been a lowly employee and a Boss, every one of them has hired/fired/ and been the bottom and the top.
I'm pretty much convinced that it has more to do with Aptitude for serious STEM than anything else. I'm very strong on encouraging young people into STEM degrees and programs, I think schools are doing a much better job today to help them prepare and to identify aptitude - STEM should be scary to anyone if they have both interest and aptitude - strength in MATH is absolutely KEY and the first sign of aptitude.
My 14 year old granddaughter is entering a 4 year STEM program (she hasn't picked her focus field yet) that will be earning College hours as she completes her high school graduation. In the eighth grade she was already in 4 High School classes ..... some have the aptitude and some don't and that has more to do with success than perceived bias and "I'm afraid to ask or they will think I'm stupid and incompetent."
No, it isn't "Star Wars" posters...this isn't the 90s. I haven't seen Star Wars anything at the office for many years. Most of the youngsters from India in the field now have never seen any of the Star Wars movies (at least not the ones I've worked with).
I work in a tech office and Star Wars memorabilia is huge. Probably the plurality of the toys and decorations that make the average cubicle look like a child's playpen. Coming in second is a three-way tie between Pokemon, assorted anime stuff, and Game of Thrones.
Also, the female staff's desks are just as replete with Star Wars and other fanboi/girl memorabilia as the male staff.
Just my one anecdotal experience. And for what it's worth, we have very few Indian employees. Mostly White, Hispanic, Black.
Why the hell would I want to paint a giant target on my back? Because that's exactly what would happen.
It's called having a backbone by standing up for yourself.
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You think men who are reported for creating a hostile work environment are tossed out on their asses by lunchtime?
It's not about the sex of the person that complains, it's about content. Keep making excuses.
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If you turn in a co-worker, YOU are the one with the problem. Women talk, and by the time we're 24-25 years old, we have figured out who HR works for and what happens to women who talk to them about other coworkers: they're passed over for promotions, get less-than-favorable performance reviews, and are hustled out the door at the next RIF.
You made this up.
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I have bills to pay, son. And principles aren't gonna pay them.
If you're good at your job you don't have much to worry about.
What I've always found interesting, though, is that we never talk about the lack of women, say, in sanitation work. Or construction. Shouldn't we also be looking at why women don't go into those fields?
Because women only seek equality or parity in desirable work/fields. It's the same reason you don't see many women protesting to be included in the selective service, i.e. the potential draft.
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Yet I and other women will continue to lose out because men are cowards.
These days, men are eschewing the "Mad Men" era behavior that women rightly took many to task for lately. But then women began to weaponize their accusation power, creating a climate where men are judged on the word of a woman and found guilty without a trial. Sexual harassment is very subjective and women can change the criteria on a whim. What man wants to lose their job or career in order to mentor a woman who might take a joke or invitation out the wrong way?
It's called having a backbone by standing up for yourself.
It's not about the sex of the person that complains, it's about content. Keep making excuses.
You made this up.
If you're good at your job you don't have much to worry about.
She most certainly did not make that up. Anyone who has worked for corporate American for any length of time knows exactly what she's talking about.
It's so easy to be judgemental when it doesn't impact you and your finances. She's gotten out of more than one bad situation - the smartest thing to do since opening your mouth will paint you as the problem.
And if you doubt any of that is true, go hang out in the Work and Employment forum and learn something instead of telling people they're lying.
She most certainly did not make that up. Anyone who has worked for corporate American for any length of time knows exactly what she's talking about.
It's so easy to be judgemental when it doesn't impact you and your finances. She's gotten out of more than one bad situation - the smartest thing to do since opening your mouth will paint you as the problem.
And if you doubt any of that is true, go hang out in the Work and Employment forum and learn something instead of telling people they're lying.
Then that’s your problem
I know women that don’t play victim and succeed
Guess it’s not the easy way out though
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