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Old 10-10-2017, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Originally Posted by Slats Grobnick View Post
Dallas bar owner after Nazi salute video surfaces: 'They'll never get back in' | WFAA.com

Did the bar owner have a right to kick them out and ban them?

Is this discrimination?
No its not. Its up to the bar to enforce what type of patrons are allowed in their establishment. I would have told them to keep their hands down as a warning. Next Nazi Salute, I would have kicked out the Alt-right crew. In these classic American themed bars, ideas of Nazism and Communism are emotionally outlawed. Remember Americans fought against Fascism Nazism and Communism and hundreds of thousands of Americans gave their lives fighting against Fascism, Nazism and Communism. In this country there is no room for Fascism, Nazism or Communism especially in hardcore American themed bars.

 
Old 10-10-2017, 05:22 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Originally Posted by No_Recess View Post
It's not difficult at all.

Man owns store.

Man has right to run his business as he sees fit.

Man can kick out someone for a Nazi salute, being gay, kneeling for an anthem, it's 65 degrees out, etc.

If forced to serve at gunpoint man is a slave.

There is no logical or moral way around it.


If you think barring public businesses (open to the public, to publicly owned) from discriminating against protected classes is the equivalent of "slavery", then you have absolutely no grasp of what slavery is.
 
Old 10-10-2017, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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If you think barring public businesses (open to the public, to publicly owned) from discriminating against protected classes is the equivalent of "slavery", then you have absolutely no grasp of what slavery is.
Well, I did attend public schools so you are wise to question my academic prowess.
 
Old 10-10-2017, 05:46 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by Cruithne View Post
Pay Milo and Richard Spencer no attention. They are a couple of schoolboys looking for attention.
I wouldn't give either of them the time of day, let alone sell them a beer.
Milo strikes me as an extremely conflicted young man who really only cares about being the center of attention.

His stories about his early sexual encounters are quite . . . enlightening.
 
Old 10-10-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Slats Grobnick View Post
I think they he has every right to kick them out.

I wonder if the right will try to claim that Milo was discriminated because he was gay.
Being gay had nothing to do with the incident in question.
 
Old 10-10-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Slats Grobnick View Post
Dallas bar owner after Nazi salute video surfaces: 'They'll never get back in' | WFAA.com

Did the bar owner have a right to kick them out and ban them?

Is this discrimination?
Yes.

I own a bar and you can kick anyone out who is being disruptive or who may incite a fight. I probably would have warned then and told them any additional BS would get them tossed.

That said, why not kick out the fools who run around with Che t-shirts or shirts promoting illegal activities?
 
Old 10-10-2017, 06:02 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Originally Posted by Slats Grobnick View Post
You're equating kneeling to the Nazi salute?

Seriously

At any rate, the NFL and the bar are private entities and it's up to them if they want to kick people out.
I don’t think you have a very good understanding of conservative values. The bolded statement you made is exactly what a true conservative would say. No true conservative would deny the bar owner his right to kick people out of his own bar.
 
Old 10-10-2017, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Originally Posted by Slats Grobnick View Post
Dallas bar owner after Nazi salute video surfaces: 'They'll never get back in' | WFAA.com

Did the bar owner have a right to kick them out and ban them?

Is this discrimination?
They have the legal right in Texas to refuse service to anyone they wish. There ya go.
 
Old 10-10-2017, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Gone
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If you think barring public businesses (open to the public, to publicly owned) from discriminating against protected classes is the equivalent of "slavery", then you have absolutely no grasp of what slavery is.
Which of those they mentioned is a protected class?
 
Old 10-10-2017, 06:39 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
Which of those they mentioned is a protected class?


Which of those what that who mentioned?


If you follow the thread, you'll see that No_Recess plainly stated that being forced to not discriminate against protected classes is the same thing as being a slave.


Really, he/she did. I'll even quote it.




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Originally Posted by No_Recess View Post
It's fiction because the State is fiction.

All I want is logical and moral consistency.

If you believe a man doesn't have the right to refuse service of the fruits of his labor to someone and that a 3rd party can force him to do so...at gunpoint...you believe in violent slavery.

Go ahead and own it. Nothing bad will happen to you. The government will pat you on the head.
(emphasis mine)


That would seem to apply to any/all protected class(es), would it not?
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