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Old 08-21-2017, 03:12 PM
 
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White nationalist want their own "nation" hence the term "nationalist."

A white person can easily moved to a nation of majority white/European people and also can move to a neighborhood in America of majority white people.

However, most white nationalist are also white supremacists (FWIW this is the same with black nationalist/supremacists). They believe they are better than other people and don't want to be around other people so they want to have their own "nation."

Practically all race/ethnic nationalists hold supremacists views. If they did not, they wouldn't want to live in a homogenous society in order to escape other ethnic groups.
You are completely thread wrecking with your preachy claims. White Americans can't just give up America and move to another country and have their American culture. Neither could black Americans. Neither can you move to a white neighborhood unless it's price restrictive or in the countryside, and they are still subject to laws they disagree with and their country being altered all around them .

The federal immigration laws and policies supporting immigration and diversity are their complaint. The laws can be changed.

 
Old 08-21-2017, 04:16 PM
 
Location: By The Beach In Maine
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White supremacy can't just mean anything and everything without meaning nothing or just opposition to everything white and being anti-white racism. So what is and isn't "white supremacy"?

Are historically white majority nations such as America and the West remaining white majority "white supremacy"?

Is asserting that racial/cultural groups differ in various ways and in compatibility "white supremacy"?

Are various different group outcomes among different identity groups "white supremacy"?

Seems like it's just a meaningless and derogatory label to silence, disenfranchise and displace whites.


That should clear up a few defintions.

White supremacists don't want any other races to exist, and don't want Jews to exist.

White Nationalists do not hate other races, they simply want their own countries - such as many in Europe. Just like Japan has its own homeland. China has its own. Hispanics and Latinos have theirs. Black people have theirs.

Aryans, 14/88 DS crowd, KKK are all White Supremacists.

Some guy with a fashy haircut is not necessarily a white supremacist.

A white guy who says they want to protect their race, heritage, and homeland is not hating every other race, does not want every other race dead. He wants what other races want, and the only reason it's even a big deal is because too many liberals have white guilt.
 
Old 08-21-2017, 04:29 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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In my view, your probably a White supremacist if:

- You believe the US should be artificially kept White.
- You believe the US is a nation of and for White people.
- You believe White people are superior to non-Whites.
- You want to impose a mandatory language requirement (English) rather than letting individuals, private businesses, and local governments decide what language they wish to speak.
- You think Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization on par with ISIS.
- You blame everything under the sun on Muslims and illegal immigrants.
- You think minorities are all lazy leeches mooching off welfare.
- You think Sharia law is going to take over and want to ban Islam.
- You think Mexico is going to reconquer the Southwest.
 
Old 08-21-2017, 04:41 PM
 
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That should clear up a few defintions.

White supremacists don't want any other races to exist, and don't want Jews to exist.

White Nationalists do not hate other races, they simply want their own countries - such as many in Europe. Just like Japan has its own homeland. China has its own. Hispanics and Latinos have theirs. Black people have theirs.

Aryans, 14/88 DS crowd, KKK are all White Supremacists.

Some guy with a fashy haircut is not necessarily a white supremacist.

A white guy who says they want to protect their race, heritage, and homeland is not hating every other race, does not want every other race dead. He wants what other races want, and the only reason it's even a big deal is because too many liberals have white guilt.
Nailed it! I actually don't care about race though to me it's about retaining our identifying culture and language in this country without being called all those vile names just because you are white.
 
Old 08-21-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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That should clear up a few defintions.

White supremacists don't want any other races to exist, and don't want Jews to exist.

White Nationalists do not hate other races, they simply want their own countries - such as many in Europe. Just like Japan has its own homeland. China has its own. Hispanics and Latinos have theirs. Black people have theirs.

Aryans, 14/88 DS crowd, KKK are all White Supremacists.

Some guy with a fashy haircut is not necessarily a white supremacist.

A white guy who says they want to protect their race, heritage, and homeland is not hating every other race, does not want every other race dead. He wants what other races want, and the only reason it's even a big deal is because too many liberals have white guilt.
I agree. I think multiculturalist and immigration supporters are the ones that hate the races and cultures, primarily white but they hate all of them. Seems they want mass globalized immigration to economically exploit, politically exploit and use as a wedge and a weapon against whites and conservatives, or to blend away the races and cultures.
 
Old 08-21-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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How many more of these "what is white supremacy/nationalism" threads do we need?

There's a half dozen of these threads in existence already

Come on people
 
Old 08-21-2017, 04:55 PM
 
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How many more of these "what is white supremacy/nationalism" threads do we need?

There's a half dozen of these threads in existence already

Come on people
I never seen one. We won't need any when Democrats and liberals stop calling people white supremacist and racist.
 
Old 08-21-2017, 05:20 PM
 
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Forget the term racist. It is a feeling or belief and frankly I could care less what's in someone's mind. They can believe whatever they frigging what to. The same is true of the term white supremacist. A belief system. It's all jargon which is why you're having to ask the differences among various terms.

What matters are actions. *Who* wants to kick other races out of the country and/or *who* wants to create enclaves. As for the latter, maybe it means they get to call themselves a white nationalist and feel better about themselves but HOW in the world are enclaves going to be constructed? And who would determine the various parameters? And the various sanctions for those who do not want to comply? Even back in the glory days of segregation there was a whole lot more race-mixing than these folks seem to want.

Even a minute spent thinking of the practical implications makes it easy to see why many apply the term "fascism" to this type of thinking.

It's all so profoundly impractical that it's sad folks have got themselves so worked up.
 
Old 08-21-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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We may think that our parent culture is British - allowing that is for various folk cultural traits for white Americans from other European nations. But I gotta tell you that the Brits get the biggest chuckle out of Americans who show up prattling about how Britain is their homeland, blah, blah. Don't know what the Germans and Italians and Poles etc. think but the Brits I know think it a hoot.

We're American by nationality with a multiplicity of subcultures a number of which clash at times - even so-called "white" subcultures.
 
Old 08-21-2017, 05:31 PM
 
Location: By The Beach In Maine
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Forget the term racist. It is a feeling or belief and frankly I could care less what's in someone's mind. They can believe whatever they frigging what to. The same is true of the term white supremacist. A belief system. It's all jargon which is why you're having to ask the differences among various terms.

What matters are actions. *Who* wants to kick other races out of the country and/or *who* wants to create enclaves. As for the latter, maybe it means they get to call themselves a white nationalist and feel better about themselves but HOW in the world are enclaves going to be constructed? And who would determine the various parameters? And the various sanctions for those who do not want to comply? Even back in the glory days of segregation there was a whole lot more race-mixing than these folks seem to want.

Even a minute spent thinking of the practical implications makes it easy to see why many apply the term "fascism" to this type of thinking.

It's all so profoundly impractical that it's sad folks have got themselves so worked up.
That's funny, you just described antifa.
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