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Old 08-10-2016, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Posted this earlier in Current Events, but it was pulled because it was too controversial so I'm posting it here. It's pretty shocking. A 73 year old woman in Florida was shot while role playing the "bad guy" during citizen police academy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ce-simulation/
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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It was funny when Barney Fyfe did it.
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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Somebody has to be held criminally-liable for this murder.
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:05 PM
 
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Somebody has to be held criminally-liable for this murder.
Its not a murder. Seriously. Its manslaughter. And the people involved are ABSOLUTELY at fault. Live weapons have ZERO place in this sort of training for EXACTLY this reason.
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:09 PM
 
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I'm confused. She looked like an old white lady. How is it she got shot then?
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:22 PM
 
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Its not a murder. Seriously. Its manslaughter. And the people involved are ABSOLUTELY at fault. Live weapons have ZERO place in this sort of training for EXACTLY this reason.
i agree with ticky, you had a cop that should of know gun safety more than anybody around, shoots and kills a lady and we should expect a "Sorry, didnt mean for that to happen" you can get a murder charge if you kill someone during a dui. so i think it should be murder just because the cop had more safety training than the average gun owner. H e should of check the gun mult times .

somebody going reply, well he got to live with it for his life time. dont care. there too much emotion in justice, remember the lady of law is blindfolder so they should be no emotion. kill someone - murder charge.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Its not a murder. Seriously. Its manslaughter. And the people involved are ABSOLUTELY at fault. Live weapons have ZERO place in this sort of training for EXACTLY this reason.

Could not agree more; they make practice weapons, they are hard plastic, they have the look of a real firearm, have all of the correct parts in the correct locations, and most of the time they are a bright blue, but unlike a real firearm, there is no magazine that can be removed, there is no working trigger, and there is certainly no working barrel from which the bullet can be fired from.


I see the value of real weapons in certain training scenarios, but not in any scenario that a someone would be drawing their weapon from it's holster and even for pretend shooting it at someone.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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He could have a case for a lighter charge IF he received the gun from another instructor and was told or had the belief it was unloaded or safe. I remember the Youtube video of the dingus cop who was doing a gun safety demonstration at a school and the gun discharged in the classroom. He was fired but luckily no one was hurt. Its a monumental screw up and the police department will have to pay big time and the cop in question will never wear a badge again or own a gun again in any case.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:34 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Its not a murder. Seriously. Its manslaughter. And the people involved are ABSOLUTELY at fault. Live weapons have ZERO place in this sort of training for EXACTLY this reason.
Ummm....yea. WTF were they doing using a real weapon and live rounds!!? That just boggles my mind.The spin on this promises to be even more baffling. Even using a real weapon at all, even if "empty", or with blanks should be out of the question. Being as, to my mind, there is no such thing as an empty firearm. Personally, I would have refused to participate with a real weapon.

I have NEVER been in a training situation where , if a weapon was to be drawn and pointed at someone, a real firearm was used. Closest thing was use of Simunitions, but the weapons were specially made just for that, were painted sky blue, and would not take live ammo. And they would be used in a training scenerio such as this one. Simunitions hurt.

This was a rubber gun situation, period!!! The complete carelessness here goes over and above "stupid hurts".
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Old 08-11-2016, 06:57 PM
 
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Well, IF someone put a LIVE round in that weapon, intentionally.......yes, it was murder.

And hey, somebody NEEDS to be held CRIMINALLY LIABLE, that live-round didn't get into that weapon by itself.
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