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Old 03-31-2016, 08:02 PM
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You must be a complete tool. Many of those people are talking about Wall Street and what is refereed to as the shadow government. This applies to the middle class and up.
LOL. That may be the most unintentionally funny thing I've read in months. They're so upset about their country being "taken" by Wall Street and "the shadow government" that they're going to... vote for candidates who promise to let the finance industry operate mostly unchecked? Vote for candidates who are the ultimate embodiment of the wealthy and well connected buying favorable policies for themselves? Vote for a party that explodes the debt with unfunded wars and sacrifices thousands of lives to enrich themselves and their donors?

How does that make any sense?

Come on. We all know exactly what people mean when they talk about "making America great again" or "taking our country back."

 
Old 03-31-2016, 08:05 PM
 
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Poor whites are more likely to be Republican than middle class whites. Even though, economically, it makes no sense at all.
Care to share your source?
 
Old 03-31-2016, 08:22 PM
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Care to share your source?
Here's one:

Section 1: General Election Preferences | Pew Research Center

People who don't make much generally vote D, but among white people it's flipped and Republicans do indeed have an advantage. Same for people who lack college education. Overall Democrats have an advantage, but not among white people.

Why is a more complicated question. Some are just voting social issues. Some have bought into the idea that Mexicans/Chinese/whoever are causing them to be poor. Some have bought into the idea that income taxes (which many of them don't even pay) keep them poor.

The Republican party has spent decades convincing lower class white people that the government and minorities are the source of all their problems, and they've been pretty successful at selling that narrative despite a complete absence of evidence to support it.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 08:48 PM
 
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A common phrase from the right-wing side of that group is "we need to take our country back". Back from who?

There is also a proven pattern of poor whites going out of their way to avoid living around poor people of other races (Hispanics, Blacks, etc.). What is the reason for this?

It seems poor whites see themselves as being "above" poor Blacks and poor Hispanics based only on the fact that they are white.

I'm looking to better understand what drives this thinking.




The basis for your claims are....?
 
Old 03-31-2016, 09:14 PM
 
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There is also a proven pattern of poor whites going out of their way to avoid living around poor people of other races (Hispanics, Blacks, etc.). What is the reason for this?
The don't want to be robbed or raped, and they don't want their kids going to schools that are like zoos or penitentiares.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 10:32 PM
 
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First-class citizens compared to who?




...to whom!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehgfdZeigFI
 
Old 03-31-2016, 10:47 PM
 
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A common phrase from the right-wing side of that group is "we need to take our country back". Back from who?

There is also a proven pattern of poor whites going out of their way to avoid living around poor people of other races (Hispanics, Blacks, etc.). What is the reason for this?

It seems poor whites see themselves as being "above" poor Blacks and poor Hispanics based only on the fact that they are white.

I'm looking to better understand what drives this thinking.
Their communities are unquestionably better on average, and thus they are above them in at least one way according to the behavior of the minorities themselves. If these minorities didn't see being near these poor whites as desirable to the point that the government didn't feel compelled to mandate forced integration, even today, then we could just label these groups as "different but equal". This is not the case. Their communities are why people want to be near them. These other groups enjoy the wealth transfer that comes from being under the umbrella of even poor white community administration. Minority culture forces Whites out of formerly white communities where minorities move. It isn't livable for many Whites, period. That's the long and short of it, to include than the increased financial and social burden that comes with failing schools and increased crime. You wanted Real Talk, and that's Real Talk.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 11:43 PM
 
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Why would ANY white person have a superiority complex for that matter? Because i sure as hell can't figure it out.

Hell, why would anyone PERIOD have a superiority complex?
 
Old 04-01-2016, 01:04 AM
 
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We all know why.....being white and American was the one thing which they had going for themselves, even if they were poor and destitute. Now, with globalization increasing and racism decreasing in this country, they're on the bottom rung with the rest of the poor and that's why they're so angry.
 
Old 04-01-2016, 01:37 AM
 
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We all know why.....being white and American was the one thing which they had going for themselves, even if they were poor and destitute. Now, with globalization increasing and racism decreasing in this country, they're on the bottom rung with the rest of the poor and that's why they're so angry.
Yeah, that's a fair point.
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