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Adolescents who need policing don’t belong in public schools. Maybe sometime between the fifth and seventh grade school officials need to sit down with parents and tell them “your kid may not make the team” so to speak. And tell them to start looking for some alternative to a traditional public high school experience for their child. This puts the responsibility on the parents to shape the student up in a year or two or face the reality that it’s not the schools responsibility to deal with violent kids, it’s the responsibility of the parents and police.
I remember being part of the village trying to raise unruly children. It was not uncommon for a single kid to have; drug counselors, mental health counseling, family therapy, house parents, community contacts, school counselors, home bound educators, social workers and still turn out to be a murderer or an inmate somewhere, a total waste of resources other than providing jobs for a lot of people. Some of them eventually came around by their late thirties or forties but by that time some of them have already had kids who are now in the system. The kids who did well, you knew they were going to do okay by the time they were 13 or 14.
Yes cops belong in schools, since so many seem ignorant of the very laws they are enforcing or the force used in carrying out. Maybe a class or two on the constitution for starters.
A uniformed police officer on detail to the school took J. D. B. from his classroom to a closed-door conference room, where police and school administrators questioned him for at least 30 minutes. Before beginning, they did not give him Miranda warnings or the opportunity to call his grandmother, his legal guardian, nor tell him he was free to leave the room.
Yes cops belong in schools, since so many seem ignorant of the very laws they are enforcing or the force used in carrying out. Maybe a class or two on the constitution for starters.
How about starting with violation of civil rights?
Things that you don't read in the papers or get from the news.
Do you realize that there are many officers that are called into homes because either the children are acting up, won't go to school, or the parents simply can't control the child. Mostly (single female parent) Yes, at 7:30AM, the officer walks into the home and is told by the parent to make their child go to school. I can't tell you the number of times I have done this and how many times for the same family.
That's the problem with everything being so 20/20 today. There are so many inner workings that most people are not privy to, much less, experts in these career fields. See, it's one thing to be behind the computer analyzing. But to be exposed to this stuff on an extreme and dangerous level is totally different and people respond differently.
We can test and train police as RSO to death. But nobody really knows how each person is going to react to an incident. On my first day on the job, I investigated a natural death- of a man (48) who had a heart attack while using the toilet. He literally was still seated and his entire family (wife and kids) saw him. On top of that, I was being yelled at by my field training officer- so imagine my stress levels... That night I called my father and told him I loved him.
But having been a prior sgt of marines, I was able to truck on. Not everyone can adjust well and be further exposed to more and more to this BUT many remain by default because of benefits and financial security.
Not giving anyone a pass but a better solution I believe is to make the RSO permanent, not as a specialized unit after 5 years of the officer being jaded on the streets... Going from the hard knock streets to then being a RSO is a world of a difference. There aren't many evaluations done in order to assist in channeling those 5 years of human disruption. It's like an infantry army reservist going on a 6 month deployment to Iraq but then coming back to his civilian office job sitting at a desk 9-5. How much of a disruption do you think that is that nobody, not even psychologists are aware of?
If there are going to be "resource officers" in schools, they won't get respect from kids by beating them. These officers should get professional training on how to handle school related incidents. Handcuffing a child to a chair is third world.
If there are going to be "resource officers" in schools, they won't get respect from kids by beating them. These officers should get professional training on how to handle school related incidents. Handcuffing a child to a chair is third world.
The real sad part about all of this is teachers and other school officials CANNOT control their students and CAN'T discipline them, have to resort to calling the police.
Our hands are tied. We are only legally allowed to "use our words".
Only the SRO (or counselor if there is no SRO at the school) can physically touch a child to remove them or physically restrain them.
Our hands are tied. We are only legally allowed to "use our words".
Only the SRO (or counselor if there is no SRO at the school) can physically touch a child to remove them or physically restrain them.
The problem is it has gotten out of control. Cops think they are working at a prison!
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