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Old 10-28-2015, 01:57 PM
 
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So while after the school calls the parent and have to wait however long it takes for them to show up, if ever, what happens.

As I said, I/we don't really know what happened prior but if the student is disruptive and has refused to leave when asked what will she do the rest of the class?

I can damn near guarantee she wouldn't sit there quietly while class continued.
She gets charged with disrupting school and not following the rules or authority, and that's the rationale for expulsion.

"your mother is on her way" has a way of getting through even to the toughest.
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:01 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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She gets charged with disrupting school and not following the rules or authority, and that's the rationale for expulsion.

"your mother is on her way" has a way of getting through even to the toughest.
That's not expulsionable in most states now. "Charged" isn't the correct word for those.

Have you taught?

With that girl that wouldn't likely work. If she's willing to not leave when ordered to by the SRO then mom probably won't have much impact.
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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No, no, no! Cops should never be in schools, ever!

You wonder why black kids are wearing shirts with the Warner Brothers "WB" logo along with the saying "Warn a brother if you see da police" these days? It's because blacks are taught to never trust the police, due to actions such as what happened in South Carolina.

Get the cops out of schools and let the teachers do the job of handling the students like they're supposed to. If a student just won't cooperate, suspend / expel them so other students can learn. But having a cop throw a girl across the room is just gonna increase sales of those "WB" shirts - trust me.
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:06 PM
 
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That's not expulsionable in most states now. "Charged" isn't the correct word for those.

Have you taught?

With that girl that wouldn't likely work. If she's willing to not leave when ordered to by the SRO then mom probably won't have much impact.
Have I taught? Only teachers are allowed opinions now?

disrupting schools is what she WAS charged with.
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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No, no, no! Cops should never be in schools, ever!

You wonder why black kids are wearing shirts with the Warner Brothers "WB" logo along with the saying "Warn a brother if you see da police" these days? It's because blacks are taught to never trust the police, due to actions such as what happened in South Carolina.

Get the cops out of schools and let the teachers do the job of handling the students like they're supposed to. If a student just won't cooperate, suspend / expel them so other students can learn. But having a cop throw a girl across the room is just gonna increase sales of those "WB" shirts - trust me.
That's asinine all the way around.

Local communities know what they need in the schools. It's stupid to tell a district that you know nothing about that they shouldn't have cops in schools.

Lots of schools I'm sure have great rapport with the local police. What about them?
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:11 PM
 
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No, no, no! Cops should never be in schools, ever!

You wonder why black kids are wearing shirts with the Warner Brothers "WB" logo along with the saying "Warn a brother if you see da police" these days? It's because blacks are taught to never trust the police, due to actions such as what happened in South Carolina.

Get the cops out of schools and let the teachers do the job of handling the students like they're supposed to. If a student just won't cooperate, suspend / expel them so other students can learn. But having a cop throw a girl across the room is just gonna increase sales of those "WB" shirts - trust me.
what if the cop is black? must be confusing
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:11 PM
 
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Have I taught? Only teachers are allowed opinions now?

disrupting schools is what she WAS charged with.
No, but you haven't so it's easy for you to say how "your mother's coming" and expect that to be an abbacaddabbra moment when it isn't for a subset of students.

In fact, since the student didn't react, she probably expected her mother would jump in.

If she was in fact charged then the officer likely had a righteous arrest. It'll be thrown out now.
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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what if the cop is black? must be confusing
Doesn't matter. Cops have no place in schools. They just don't. If teachers and administrators can't handle students, then they need to learn how to do their job. If someone is violent (which this student was certainly not), a 911 call would be appropriate - just like it would anywhere else.
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:19 PM
 
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If there is something violently criminal going on police should be called. Or maybe selling drugs.

Being bratty about using your phone is the kind of thing that used to get you detention. Maybe repeated incidences would get you suspended. That doesn't warrant police.

The problem here is South Carolina made that kind of thing actually illegal, so now someone can arrest a teenager for being a teenager.

The girl wasn't even talking apparently. She was not violent. She made no threats. She didn't even yell. It's stupid that you can get a kid a record for sulking in class. And it's even dumber that a huge police officer ends up throwing around a teenage girl who was no threat to anyone over being a moody teen.

The kid apparently just lost her mom and grandma this year and was recently placed in foster care, so that probably has a lot to do with her behavior.
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:34 PM
 
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If there is something violently criminal going on police should be called. Or maybe selling drugs.

Being bratty about using your phone is the kind of thing that used to get you detention. Maybe repeated incidences would get you suspended. That doesn't warrant police.

The problem here is South Carolina made that kind of thing actually illegal, so now someone can arrest a teenager for being a teenager.

The girl wasn't even talking apparently. She was not violent. She made no threats. She didn't even yell. It's stupid that you can get a kid a record for sulking in class. And it's even dumber that a huge police officer ends up throwing around a teenage girl who was no threat to anyone over being a moody teen.

The kid apparently just lost her mom and grandma this year and was recently placed in foster care, so that probably has a lot to do with her behavior.
Everyone has a sad story. Here is a hint.

No one cares.

Not even the media making you a civil rights hero.
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