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Old 10-18-2015, 12:32 PM
 
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I as an Israeli also think that USA should not be involved and should stop holding our hands from finishing this thing.
I agree, Israel is a sovereign state and as such should be allowed to fail if they want to, with that being said we should also stop giving them money and let them fight their own battles. If they want to keep going to war with Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world than let them the only problem is those in charge are all religious and so we will never truly cut ourselves off from Israel.

 
Old 10-18-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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Give the whole area back to the Ottoman Empire, they knew how to handle this sort of thing.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 01:08 PM
 
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Give the whole area back to the Ottoman Empire, they knew how to handle this sort of thing.
And how did they handle??

Demographics were way different back then.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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What's happening is that Palestinians are doing what they really want to do, kill Jews. They will not be happy until the last Jew is either dead or walking into the Mediterranean.
Let's be generous. . .
Islam wants all other religions / governments to convert, submit or die.
They're an equal opportunity mad dog ideology.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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Ezzedeen Al-Qassam Brigades | Information Office
PNN | Palestine News Network
http://manartv.com.lb/english/main.php
PressTV

just some links for anyone seeking non-"Western" sources of news.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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If they [Israelis] want to keep going to war with Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world . . .
You are joking, right?

The Islamic world has been against Jews and Israel long before 1948.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine
The end of the 19th century saw the beginning of Zionist immigration and the revival of the Hebrew language. The movement was publicly supported by Great Britain during World War I with the Balfour Declaration of 1917.

“His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

The British were formally awarded the mandate to govern the region in 1922. The non-Jewish Palestinians [Muslims] revolted in 1920, 1929 and 1936. In 1947, following World War II and the Holocaust, the British Government announced its desire to terminate the Mandate, and the United Nations General Assembly adopted a resolution recommending partition into an Arab state, a Jewish state and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem. The Jewish leadership accepted the proposal, but the Arab Higher Committee rejected it; a civil war began immediately, and the establishment of the State of Israel was declared in 1948...
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In the 1948 war, the local Muslims were admonished not to fire upon their Muslim brethren coming to “liberate” them from the infidels. So they abandoned their properties and would not help defend against the invaders, who were odds on favorites to wipe out the Israelis. When the Israelis won, the refugees refused to give allegiance to the new government, and thus abandoned their claims. (There were other complications, but this is the gist of it.)
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As Winston Churchill stated:
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"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

"The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, SLOVENLY SYSTEMS OF AGRICULTURE, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
- - - Winston S. Churchill
 
Old 10-18-2015, 02:15 PM
 
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I agree, Israel is a sovereign state and as such should be allowed to fail if they want to, with that being said we should also stop giving them money and let them fight their own battles. If they want to keep going to war with Palestinians and the rest of the Arab world than let them the only problem is those in charge are all religious and so we will never truly cut ourselves off from Israel.
The money is for giving Sinay to Egypt. Give us Sinay back, and stop the military aid, it's a deal.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 02:17 PM
 
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Israel must withdraw all settlers or face ICC, says UN report
UN Human Rights Council says Israel is in violation of Geneva convention and should face international criminal court

Israel must withdraw all settlers or face ICC, says UN report | World news | The Guardian
Human Rights Council is headed by Saudi Arabia, is it not? Who cares what they say.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 02:35 PM
 
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The money is for giving Sinai to Egypt. Give us Sinai back, and stop the military aid, it's a deal.
But how can we make it a win-win and give Gaza back to Egypt?
 
Old 10-18-2015, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Don't worry about me, you've presented nothing short of insanity for as long as I remember you posting anything in these forums. Hate is ingrained in you. These are merely excuses for you to keep pushing your religious and social propaganda, and this is no different. Its "Barack killing innocent" (bad) vs "Barak taking care of those damn Palestinians" (good).

The idiocy is much more widespread though, and your deflection does not help to address it.
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