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Old 05-14-2015, 08:41 AM
 
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This is old news. It was discussed a long time ago. The older generations have all kinds of fears, irrelevant as those fears may often be nowadays. Guess she figured his mixed upbringing would cause cultural issues. What she didn't realize that her daughter navigated a totally different world than she did, through no fault of her own. Interacting with different groups was (and is) a norm for Michelle. Even if there were difficulties, they could be worked out.
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Old 05-14-2015, 08:48 AM
 
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Shocking, Mrs. Robinson is the only parent to ever express reservation against her child dating a person of different race, religion or socio-economic background. Hey, maybe she was not in favor because Barak is from Kenya, is a Muslim and had a f-ed up middle name. Nah. Rage, rage, rage. Over nothing.

I can't wait until one of y'all's daughter brings home Jamal, Tyrone or La'Juan. I am sure you'd be completely accepting. In fact, you might join BF's family gathering for Kwanza. lol

Mick
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Old 05-14-2015, 08:49 AM
 
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What a crock of baloney.

What's being pointed out is her and her family's racism, so chuck the hypocrisy.
The article seems less about racism and more about the stereotype that mixed people are automatically going to have issues. She said she would have had less issues if he were white.
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Old 05-14-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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The article seems less about racism and more about the stereotype that mixed people are automatically going to have issues. She said she would have had less issues if he were white.
Please, I'd be grateful if you don't point out stuff that doesn't fit the narrative because no one reads any more.


Mick
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:02 AM
 
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The blacks, the blacks, the blacks.

Yeah...I guess some of you are shocked (for some weird reason) to find out that there exists black people that don't jump up and down with joy at the prospect of having white folks join the family. I'm sure that comes as a complete surprise to those with an inflated sense of themselves based on their race.

In any case, given the generation she was born into, her concerns are understandable.
Isnt her mom in her 70s. Leave it up to conservatives to gauge progres using the ideas of senior citizens
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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What a crock of baloney.

What's being pointed out is her and her family's racism, so chuck the hypocrisy.
Her mother reacted the EXACT same way YOU would act if your child brought someone home of a different race. And your parents would've reacted the same way. In fact, you would've behaved even worse.
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Last time I looked, white folks are human beings just like black folks.


Seems some of you might wanna practice what you preach.
I'm not preaching anything. I'm in a mixed marriage right now. Been in it for 25 years. So i don't know who "some of you" is supposed to be.

Seems to me that you're one of the people i was talking about...wounded because someone doesn't actually throw a big party just because someone is bringing a white person home.

Her mother's concerns were reasonable given the generation she came from. And really, you shouldn't talk. You're probably far younger than Michelle Obama's mother, and you'd STILL have that reaction.

Stop putting on a front.
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I agree. My grandparents (Mrs Robinson's era) were mostly very wary of "race mixing." It was common amongst black and white Americans to have this point of view. My paternal grandfather actually had a white lady "on the side" and eventually left his wife (my grandmother) for the mistress. His mom didn't talk to him for a year over it and she herself was mixed race. Her own mother did not want her to marry my great grandfather because he was "too dark." My great grandmother looked like a white person even though she was classified as black.

I do think though that there has been an unhealthy focus on Michelle Obama around here of late.

Also, desertdetroiter is right, many black people don't think having a white family member is all that good of a thing. Just like many white men don't want their daughters bringing home a black guy, black families don't want their son to bring home a white lady. Both are common ideologies.
Trust me, these posters talking smack about my comments would go bananas if their child brought home a black person and introduced him/her as their new boy/girlfriend.

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The article seems less about racism and more about the stereotype that mixed people are automatically going to have issues. She said she would have had less issues if he were white.
The article isn't about racism at all in fact. Mrs. Robinson is a woman raised in the Jim Crow south, and her fears are totally understandable and totally reasonable.
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Isnt her mom in her 70s. Leave it up to conservatives to gauge progres using the ideas of senior citizens
Conservatives who have her same stance to boot.
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:29 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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but not as concerned as she would have been had he been completely white:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2153243

True - he certainly would never have been president.
It's delusional thinking if you believe he got elected just because of his race.
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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This is old news. It was discussed a long time ago. The older generations have all kinds of fears, irrelevant as those fears may often be nowadays. Guess she figured his mixed upbringing would cause cultural issues. What she didn't realize that her daughter navigated a totally different world than she did, through no fault of her own. Interacting with different groups was (and is) a norm for Michelle. Even if there were difficulties, they could be worked out.
"Guess she figured his mixed upbringing would cause cultural issues"
Could be? He could have had all sorts of baggage related to having a White mom and Black dad, especially in that time period. Black mixed kid being raised White people could have all sorts of issues especially in a society that continues to have racial identity pushed as a major factor in what defines you

It's interesting that a lot of people bag on the people of her generation of of having baggage associated with race mixing, when I see more and more mixed couples of that generation. On the other hand they could be so blind and hard of hearing they might not be able to distinguish that the other person is of another race. More than likely they probably just got to the point where they were just happy to have another person to nag them.

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Old 05-14-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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"Guess she figured his mixed upbringing would cause cultural issues"
Could be? He could have had all sorts of baggage related to having a White mom and Black dad, especially in that time period. Black mixed kid being raised White people could have all sorts of issues especially in a society that continues to have racial identity pushed as a major factor in what defines you
Studies have actually shown that mixed kids are very well adjusted overall. This piece in Time is pretty good:

Are Mixed-Race Children Better Adjusted? - TIME

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But new research says this old, problematized view of multiracial identity is outdated. In fact, a new paper in the Journal of Social Issues shows that multiracial adolescents who identify proudly as multiracial fare as well as — and, in many cases, better than — kids who identify with a single group, even if that group is considered high-status (like, say, Asians or whites). This finding was surprising because psychologists have argued for years that mixed-race kids will be better adjusted if they pick a single race as their own.
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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I'm not preaching anything. I'm in a mixed marriage right now. Been in it for 25 years. So i don't know who "some of you" is supposed to be.
It means Barry's mother in law and those who think/thought like her, black or white, not you.

Yes I know of your marriage. You are hip, cool, and clearly miles ahead of many.
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