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When a people are isolated, if they don't quickly learn to work together, they will turn on each other. The same thing is happening in San Francisco, where the black population is very small and ghettoized into low-income housing.
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Originally Posted by Aceter
The numbers were based on 2011 data and it's even more misleading than previous years. Nebraska's overall murder rate was 3.7 per 100,000 with black people accounting for only 44% of the states overall murder count. In Louisiana the overall murder rate was 3 times higher at 11.2 per 100,000 with black people accounting for 74% of the states overall murder count. The VPC should be banned from releasing this junk. 44% of 3.7 =1.628 per 100,000 while 74% of 11.2 =8.288 per 100,000. Means that a black person was 5 times more likely to be killed in Louisiana than in Nebraska.
Not sure if I'm misreading your statistics, but all that's telling me is there is many more black people in Louisiana than Nebraska, unless you have data of percentages relating only to the respective black populations and not overall pop.
The numbers were based on 2011 data and it's even more misleading than previous years. Nebraska's overall murder rate was 3.7 per 100,000 with black people accounting for only 44% of the states overall murder count. In Louisiana the overall murder rate was 3 times higher at 11.2 per 100,000 with black people accounting for 74% of the states overall murder count. The VPC should be banned from releasing this junk. 44% of 3.7 =1.628 per 100,000 while 74% of 11.2 =8.288 per 100,000. Means that a black person was 5 times more likely to be killed in Louisiana than in Nebraska.
The black homicide rate, for states, is not calculated from the states overall population as you have done. The only two numbers needed to are the total number of blacks in the state and the total number of homicides that were black.
Your juxtaposition is invalid because you did not factor in the fact that Louisiana is about 30% black, while Nebraska is less than 5% black.
I'm sad that say that this is not surprising. Omaha might have a low murder rate, but the major of persons being murdered in Omaha are Black, and consider that there are about 56,000 Blacks in Omaha, it doesn't surprise me to hear about the Black homicide rate being so high in Nebraska. Most of Nebraska's Black population lives in Omaha, most of the state's murders are in Omaha, and Omaha has one of the poorest Black populations in the nation. High level of segregation, high level of poverty and broken homes.
I think that Omaha is a good microcosm of the conditions of black urban America. Crime is no longer just a big city issue. The same things goes on in cities big and small. Often times people migrating from bigger cities to small cities have brought big city violence with them....changing the culture of the small cities. Also, at least in the past, you get crews sent to smaller cities, from larger cities like Detroit and Chicago, to run drugs and that generally increases the violence as they have to take over territories and make reputations.
The day of the funeral for a 5-year-old Omaha girl killed by a stray bullet, a national organization declared that Nebraska has the highest black homicide rate in the nation.
The statistics that the Washington D.C.-based Violence Prevention Center analyzed do not include the Jan. 15 killing of Payton Benson. The numbers come from 2011, the most recent year for which comprehensive national homicide data is available. But a high ranking is not a one-year anomaly.
Wow.....I am kind of shocked from the absolute numbers for Michigan ....the state I was raised in. Only California and New York have more absolute numbers of black homicides than Michigan....and not by much more. I never would have guessed that. I would have thought Illinois, Texas and other southern states would have a lot more than Michigan.
The homicide death rate for Black people who live in predominantly White neighborhoods must be extremely low. If it was high, you would never hear the end of it from the mainstream media.
A Black man is safer living in Fargo, North Dakota than he is in Detroit, Michigan.
The day of the funeral for a 5-year-old Omaha girl killed by a stray bullet, a national organization declared that Nebraska has the highest black homicide rate in the nation.
The statistics that the Washington D.C.-based Violence Prevention Center analyzed do not include the Jan. 15 killing of Payton Benson. The numbers come from 2011, the most recent year for which comprehensive national homicide data is available. But a high ranking is not a one-year anomaly.
The homicide death rate for Black people who live in predominantly White neighborhoods must be extremely low. If it was high, you would never hear the end of it from the mainstream media.
A Black man is safer living in Fargo, North Dakota than he is in Detroit, Michigan.
One thing about the Black homicide rate in Nebraska is that it highlights the contrasts that exist.
Nebraska's unemployment rate: 3.9%
Nebraska's Black unemployment rate: 12.6%(7th highest in the nation)
Nebraska's White unemployment rate: 3.5%(5th lowest in the nation)
Nebraska's median household income: $49,075
Nebraska's median household income(Blacks): $27,732
Nebraska's median household income(Whites): $52,861
Nebraska has alot of contrasts. Many would look at Nebraska and think it would not happen that way. Nebraska is conservative, 82% White, and Blacks make up 4.5% of the population. Some might think these kind of contrasts couldn't exist in Nebraska. However, it does exist. It's a tale of two states. There is a Nebraska that consists of some part of Omaha, and the rest of Nebraska. It is a Nebraska with low unemployment rates and a strong economy. And then there is a Nebraska of North Omaha. The majority of Nebraska's Black population lives in the city of Omaha, and most of Omaha's Black population lives on the North side of the city. There is alot of poverty, violence, unemployment, low education attainment. Nebraska has alot more contrasts than many people would think.
I feel like that is what the Black murder rate in Nebraska highlights. It highlights the contrasts in Nebraska. Whites in Nebraska have low unemployment rates. However, Blacks in Nebraska have among the highest unemployment rates in the USA. Stark contrasts.
This is an excellent examination of the situation. I have an aunt in Omaha. I have been there a couple of times. The contrast you find between whites and blacks in the North Central part of this country are striking. Such contrast also exist in Minnesota.....except Minnesota is much more integrated and liberal. Omaha segregation level would make it a perfect fit in Michigan. I wonder how much of it is people moving from larger cities to Omaha.....drawn to the low unemployment rates and what not.
I think the greater percentage of a states black population that is URBAN (vs rural or suburban) , along with rates of poverty and segregation, the higher the murder rates tend to be....
I think that Omaha is a good microcosm of the conditions of black urban America. Crime is no longer just a big city issue. The same things goes on in cities big and small. Often times people migrating from bigger cities to small cities have brought big city violence with them....changing the culture of the small cities. Also, at least in the past, you get crews sent to smaller cities, from larger cities like Detroit and Chicago, to run drugs and that generally increases the violence as they have to take over territories and make reputations.
Omaha a microcosm of the conditions of Black urban America? Ha! You should be comedian.
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