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Old 01-19-2014, 09:16 PM
 
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Only form of capitalism that has no government intervention is laissez faire capitalism, can't think of any country like that, except Somalia.

FYI, fascism is not socialism.
Somalia does NOT have laissez faire economics. Sorry.

It does not have freedom, it does not have "no government"... I don't fall for your stupid lies. If you want to responded to about something intelligent... say something intelligent.
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:17 PM
 
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What?

It's anti-capitalist.

Capitalism has NO government intervention in your markets.

Government intervention and direction but private ownership resembles fascism.
Do you favor legalizing all drugs? What about abortions, the morning after pill?

What about alcohol laws that state you have to be 21 to buy.
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:17 PM
 
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Everyone knows Obama lied about Obamacare. Why? Because he knew if people knew the truth they wouldn't want it. For people who refuse to believe that then why did he have to lie?
No upside to lying.
Obviously neither he nor his writers understand insurance. If they had they would know hospitals and medical practices opt in and out of insurance plans all the time, regardless if those plans are large group, small group or individual plans. There's nothing magical within the ACA that can change this reality.

What strikes me as obvious is that Obama believed it and no insurer or state insurance commission chose to correct him. Heck, some of the big money that supported Romney could have used this against Obama during the campaign, yet they did not. The ACA was law during the campaign. Maybe they were too busy enjoying the thrill of the Obama phone lady.
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:18 PM
 
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No, but what he's doing, and what the left is doing, is HOW YOU GET THERE.

While socialism is defined as publicly owned industry and business, there has never actually been (aside from the USSR) anything close to it. However, it has long been held by the social engineers, that the means to GET TO SOCIALISM without bombs and guns and mass murder to do it by force, is precisely what you, the left, Obama, etc, are doing. Which is to hamstring private industry, to forcibly take over markets and individual decisions, to create such massive disasters, that later, during a time of extreme crisis brought on by these measures, power and control can be seized without fear of revolution.

So, while you may be technically right... that we don't have socialism... YOU ARE INTENT upon achieving it ,as are all your cronies, who are busy attempting to create what they believe will be the conditions in which power can be seized and a corrupt version of technical socialism imposed by force.
"Which is to hamstring private industry"- Like mandating car safety standards? That's hamstringing private industry? We can't we all buy cars that launch the steering wheel into your face if you crash like in the good ol' days?

"to forcibly take over markets and individual decisions"- So far there is no single market in this country that has been taken over by the US government. About those individual decisions, I would backtrack on that argument unless you want to open that can of worms with our more socially liberal friends on here.

"to create such massive disasters,that later, during a time of extreme crisis brought on by these measures"- what disasters?
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:19 PM
 
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Wrong. That's Gilded Age capitalism or anarcho-capitalism in its most extreme form
No. Start speaking truthfully.

I doubt you're this ignorant. But, it could be.

Do you actually believe this crap, or do you just post it to muddy the waters?
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:20 PM
 
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No. Start speaking truthfully.

I doubt you're this ignorant. But, it could be.

Do you actually believe this crap, or do you just post it to muddy the waters?
What countries have zero regulations? None, so are those countries all socialist?
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:20 PM
 
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Do you favor legalizing all drugs? What about abortions, the morning after pill?

What about alcohol laws that state you have to be 21 to buy.
What about them? When did this become about what I think our society's rules should be?

It didn't. It's about whether or not the government class is attempting to drive us toward socialism and how that's done.
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:21 PM
 
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:22 PM
 
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What countries have zero regulations? None, so are those countries all socialist?
Hello? Can you read? Ask questions germane to the subject. Again, answer this... Do you believe this crap, or are you just trying to totally muddy the waters?
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:23 PM
 
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What about them? When did this become about what I think our society's rules should be?

It didn't. It's about whether or not the government class is attempting to drive us toward socialism and how that's done.
This is a political forum, if you aren't willing to discuss your political leanings, then why the hell did you come here??

You claim that regulations are socialist, does that extend to liquor laws, drug laws, abortion laws, pornography laws?

Yes or no?
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