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President Obama's administration has been giving out a highly misleading account of the number that is enrolling in Obamacare.
Obama's official tweet, recently says that 6 Million people have enrolled due to healthcare reform and "That's a Fact."
No, Obama, it is a gross distortion like much of your presidency.
3.9 Million of those people enrolled in medicaid and no one really knows how much of that is due to new provisions in the law versus the growing poverty rate in this country during the "Obama recovery" that has been increasing those on medicare before the law.
Some estimates are suggesting that only 200K to 400K of the 3.9 Million new medicare enrolees are due to Obamacare.
I don't know who mans the Twitter feed for the Blight House, but they send out a LOT of tweets that start with "FACT:"
Of course, 95% of them are anything BUT fact. His game plan is the usual Obama ploy: Lie about everything, knowing that the MSM will not call him on it.
I cannot wait until we can flush the toilet on this turd.
The Obama administration included people who were already on medicaid and had to sign up again.
Just like they included people who lost their insurance due to Obamacare then the Obama administration counted them as people who "wanted" Obamacare. I doubt the people who lost their insurance would have signed up if they didn't lose their insurance.
"If you like your insurance you can keep your insurance"
-- Barack Obama
The Obama administration included people who were already on medicaid and had to sign up again.
Just like they included people who lost their insurance due to Obamacare then the Obama administration counted them as people who "wanted" Obamacare. I doubt the people who lost their insurance would have signed up if they didn't lose their insurance.
"If you like your insurance you can keep your insurance"
-- Barack Obama
And Obama continues to get away with lies.
The most important data I am interested in the the true number of "new" paying subscribers who were previously uninsured. At this point I don't care if they get subsidies or not.
But we need more paying customers into the system. The Goal of the ACA is to get people on be sidelines who were priced out of health insurance. It should be at least a 50/50 ratio of putting people into the free stuff (mediciaid) and into paying customers who were previously uninsured.
Right now. We have no clue how many of the so called 2 million who have enrolled into the exchanges were previously uninsured. Government or health insurance companies have that data.
The most important data I am interested in the the true number of "new" paying subscribers who were previously uninsured. At this point I don't care if they get subsidies or not.
You'll never know.
It was all lies. 50 Million uninsured? That was a lie. The Census Bureau even admitted it was a lie. "The ends justify the means."
It was all lies. 50 Million uninsured? That was a lie. The Census Bureau even admitted it was a lie. "The ends justify the means."
It was an expensive lie....
Mircea
I actually believe the 45-50 million uninsured number. Those are the facts.
But numbers can be spinned once you start looking into it.
Close to 15 million of the uninsured have incomes over $75k. Around 20 million uninsured are under the age of 35. Considering most young are healthy. Clearly affordability isn't the main driving factor to being uninsured. We all know how cheap it is to get major comprehensive medical that already included preventive services for the young.
By my own estimates. At worst we have around 20 million "uninsurables" mostly do to a cost factor.
The ACA still will leave 20-30 million uninsured. It's a zero sum very costly law that doesn't dramatically improve the true number of uninsured.
I don't know who mans the Twitter feed for the Blight House, but they send out a LOT of tweets that start with "FACT:"
Of course, 95% of them are anything BUT fact. His game plan is the usual Obama ploy: Lie about everything, knowing that the MSM will not call him on it.
I cannot wait until we can flush the toilet on this turd.
I got a tweet for them...
FACT: MaoBama needs to be hauled from the Oval Office via his testicles.
I actually believe the 45-50 million uninsured number. Those are the facts.
But numbers can be spinned once you start looking into it.
Close to 15 million of the uninsured have incomes over $75k. Around 20 million uninsured are under the age of 35. Considering most young are healthy. Clearly affordability isn't the main driving factor to being uninsured. We all know how cheap it is to get major comprehensive medical that already included preventive services for the young.
By my own estimates. At worst we have around 20 million "uninsurables" mostly do to a cost factor.
The ACA still will leave 20-30 million uninsured. It's a zero sum very costly law that doesn't dramatically improve the true number of uninsured.
And therein lies the problem.....the problem that nobody in the media is talking about.
Obamacare truly is a zero sum law. We'll have just as many uninsureds AFTER Obamacare as we did before.
But......
BECAUSE OF Obamacare, the majority of people will be paying significantly more for their health insurance. Whether it is through higher premiums, higher deductibles, or higher out-of-pocket expenses, it does not matter. The bottom line is that things are going to get very expensive for a large number of Americans.
But you'll never get THAT information from The Blight House, because Obamacare is all about unicorns and gum drop raindrops. You'll hear the occasional story how a person who couldn't get insurance due to pre-existing conditions now gushes with exuberance over the power of Obamacare. But the millions of people who suddenly saw their expenses skyrocket because of Obamacare? You won't hear that from Obama or the MSM.
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