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Old 01-13-2014, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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You won't believe what the other side had to say about it.

“We’ve worked to create a situation where the middle class is suddenly within reach of gaming workers,” Mr. Ward added, “not a bunch of minimum-wage jobs where people have to live on the dole to survive.”

I'm with the folks above. I want them to make 10 bucks an hour, live in government subsidized housing, and have to take the bus, instead of being able to afford a car. (At least, that what the article link said they do.) 3...2....1 seconds before some liberal says, "That sounds like a crummy life." and "3 more seconds before someone says, "They can get a second job, she's built like a work horse, look at those gams, and stop sucking up all that welfare!!! Who needs a life? 10 whole dollars an hour??? In other countries they would be WEALTHY. New York city? On 10 bucks? Who CAN"T make it in New York City on 10 bucks an hour? Seriously, get a clue. There are lots of benches to sleep on. Free food in the dumpsters, too. "

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Old 01-13-2014, 05:50 AM
 
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You won't believe what the other side had to say about it.

“We’ve worked to create a situation where the middle class is suddenly within reach of gaming workers,” Mr. Ward added, “not a bunch of minimum-wage jobs where people have to live on the dole to survive.”

I'm with the folks above. I want them to make 10 bucks an hour, live in government subsidized housing, and have to take the bus, instead of being able to afford a car. (At least, that what the article link said they do.) 3...2....1 seconds before some liberal says, "That sounds like a crummy life." and "3 more seconds before someone says, "They can get a second job, she's built like a work horse, look at those gams, and stop sucking up all that welfare!!! Who needs a life? 10 whole dollars an hour??? In other countries they would be WEALTHY. New York city? On 10 bucks? Who CAN"T make it in New York City on 10 bucks an hour? Seriously, get a clue. There are lots of benches to sleep on. Free food in the dumpsters, too. "

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Dont like living in NY.. MOVE

Dont like making $10 an hour, find a new job or a better skill

Why is the restaurant owner to blame because real estate costs are excessive?

How many more people are living on a bench because they CANT AFFORD TO PAY MORE and had to shut down?

Where did you think the money would come from?
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Old 01-13-2014, 05:52 AM
 
Location: NJ
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The wage increase made it even less profitable which appears to be the straw that broke the camel's back.

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, until a decision to close is made, opportunity exists to turn it around. Now no opportunity exists.
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Old 01-13-2014, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Do people not understand correlation versus causation? According to the article, the restaurant had never been profitable. Is there some additional information you can show that links the wage increase with the closing?
The casino is the most profitable within the massive Malay global enterprise and employs 1375 people. It is situation within 10 miles of 6 million people. This buffet restaurant employed only 175 workers and had lost money since opening, well before the pay raises.

The owner's spokesman made clear that the recent raises had nothing to do with closing this particular restaurant.
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Old 01-13-2014, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So why didn't the workers buy him out and run it themselves ?
That's always the same sad story…someone ELSE needs to pay them more.
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Old 01-13-2014, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Very telling statements from the story

and that the restaurant had lost money since it opened
“A lot of us got hurt,” she said. “I think they are being greedy.”

So these employees knew the restaurant was losing money, went out and got their wages more than doubled, despite accepting the job at their lower starting wages, and its the one losing money, being greedy..
The casino employs 1375 people. The restaurant employed 175.
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Old 01-13-2014, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Very telling statements from the story

and that the restaurant had lost money since it opened
“A lot of us got hurt,” she said. “I think they are being greedy.”

So these employees knew the restaurant was losing money, went out and got their wages more than doubled, despite accepting the job at their lower starting wages, and its the one losing money, being greedy..

The employees have the mistaken idea that they are partners in the buiness and thus entitled to a share of the profits. Employees did not invest one nickel in the company unless they bought stock shares. They are entitled to nothing but an hourly wage for their labor. Employees are an EXPENSE.
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Old 01-13-2014, 06:02 AM
 
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Do people not understand correlation versus causation? According to the article, the restaurant had never been profitable. Is there some additional information you can show that links the wage increase with the closing?
Restaurants at casinos routinely dont make a lot of profit. They are loss leaders to entertain the guests who are there gambling, in order to keep them from leaving..

At some point, the cost no longer justifies the expense.
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Old 01-13-2014, 06:03 AM
 
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The casino employs 1375 people. The restaurant employed 175.
And?
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Old 01-13-2014, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Dont like living in NY.. MOVE

Dont like making $10 an hour, find a new job or a better skill

Why is the restaurant owner to blame because real estate costs are excessive?

How many more people are living on a bench because they CANT AFFORD TO PAY MORE and had to shut down?

Where did you think the money would come from?
He's not to blame. Why would you even think that? And yeah, I've heard the "just move" thing before. It's cool for some folks, but some folks just can't afford it, got family in the area, etc. It's a great theory, but in reality, it doesn't play well.

I saw this same thing when I lived in Seattle. (Which recently had the same "raise" thing happen.)
Seattle used to be fairly cheap, then the Californians sold their housing and moved to Seattle. They overpaid for housing and housing prices shot to the MILLIONS. Then they hated the place because it rains all the time, and went back to California. But the home prices stayed retarded. So now, there are two classes of people there. Those that can afford it, and those that can't.

The last time I checked, the poverty level for subsidized housing in Seattle was 46K a year. Yeah, under that you are just some POOR schmoe.

Here's a list of properties for low rent that are on the lottery there in NYC.
Man that sucks, she doesn't make enough to qualify for any of them.
Current Apartment Rental Lottery Opportunities - NYC Affordable Housing Resource Center

Maybe you are right. She should just move. Start over. Yeah. That's so simple. Especially with the kid.
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