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Old 11-17-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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A person has no right to distribute another's image over a public forum without that person's express permission to do so. Ask and if you don't get permission, you cannot do it, period. I would like to think that this would be a common courtesy afforded one person to another.

The current attitude of "don't ask for permission before, ask for an apology afterwards" is way to prevalent in this society.
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:47 AM
 
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A person has no right to distribute another's image over a public forum without that person's express permission to do so. Ask and if you don't get permission, you cannot do it, period. I would like to think that this would be a common courtesy afforded one person to another.

The current attitude of "don't ask for permission before, ask for an apology afterwards" is way to prevalent in this society.

Person "A" can not post a picture of Person "B" , if Person "B" owns that picture.

But if Person "A" , owns the picture of Person "B", then Person "A" can post it wherever they want.


So if Person "A" takes a picture with his camera of his girlfriend naked , and the girlfriend knew he was taking the picture, then Person "A" can legally post the images, since they are his, not the girlfriends.
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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If you have a significant other and take a "selfie" of yourself and send it to him/her or you make a movie together, you are stupid. There should be no law against stupidity here. If you have a nasty break up and the slighted partner puts it on the internet, your tough loss. Don't take pictures you don't want other people to see. Maybe even the whole world.
‘Revenge porn’ victims press for new laws - Nation - The Boston Globe

It's not only even dumber to post those photos in social media, it's also illegal. If you're so offended by that law, start a movement to repeal it. Laws against stupid actions designed to cause someone else pain are nothing new or different.
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:53 AM
 
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Well I've read a few stories and I definitely think there is a crime somewhere in sending such crap to a persons employer, their childs school, their business associates, neighbors, etc. That's been done so it's not just a matter of posting pics on a porn site. And providing other people facebook, linkedin, phone numbers, addresses, etc. to go along with the pics is more than just posting a pic on a porn site. AND sometimes the pics are photoshopped, what the hell can you even do about that? Your minister, or your entire church, gets a naked picture of you...it's not you but they don't know that. There are ZERO safeguards to prevent you from being a target of that. None. Apparently I can take your face, shop it on a naked body doing something nasty, and put it on a billboard and claim "free speech". Nope, I'm not going to agree to that. It's a new frontier, and new laws ARE going to be made, because we suck as a society and can't monitor ourselves.

While I wholeheartedly agree that one way to avoid this is to NOT get naked for a camera in the first place it does seem to be a common thing for a lot of people today. Don't ask me, I disagree with it but folks will tell me I'm a prude and that it's perfectly fine and appropriate for couples to do this. It's hard to argue that it's ok then turn around and complain about this WHEN YOU KNOW HOW TO AVOID IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. The mixed messages people get about this kind of thing, men and woman, it astounding. And I doubt anyone would enter into a relationship with someone who seemed so off kilter as to do this sort of thing....but more people are crazy than not it seems.
Yes, some of this could be an obvious crime -- the photo altering would be I think as that's is an out-and-out falsehood. Same if photos were taken with a hidden camera and no consent was given.

The other though when you give "gifts" to people including naked pictures of yourself, then you can't dictate what they may do with your gifts. If you gave someone a set of tools, they can sell them even on craigslist.

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Old 11-17-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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A person has no right to distribute another's image over a public forum without that person's express permission to do so. Ask and if you don't get permission, you cannot do it, period. I would like to think that this would be a common courtesy afforded one person to another.

The current attitude of "don't ask for permission before, ask for an apology afterwards" is way to prevalent in this society.
It may depend on the laws of the country where the servers that hold the porn images are located. The USA government doesn't own or control the servers in other countries. I think the legality could all-depend because if you give someone permission to take a video of you, then that person is the owner of it. Your permission was given when you agreed to pose for them. Or you should draw up a legal contract before you pose or perform porno acts that specifies how the images can be used.
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Old 11-17-2013, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Person "A" can not post a picture of Person "B" , if Person "B" owns that picture.

But if Person "A" , owns the picture of Person "B", then Person "A" can post it wherever they want.


So if Person "A" takes a picture with his camera of his girlfriend naked , and the girlfriend knew he was taking the picture, then Person "A" can legally post the images, since they are his, not the girlfriends.
Legally: If the use is for non-profit distribution, yes.

If the distribution has the potential to make the distributor money, then he has to ask permission to use the image and provide proper compensation. Especially, but not solely, if the subject of the picture is the reason the picture makes money.

Personally:

Be courteous and ask if the person wants his/her image splattered across the known universe. It just may be that person doesn't.
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Old 11-17-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The internet is forever.
The internet is world wide.
If you don't want your pictures to appear forever, world wide, do not take them!
If you would not want your mother or future spouse to see them, don't take them.
If you think you might run for public office someday, avoid having any such pictures taken.
Yes, the subject has been covered repeatedly. Yes, it is getting tiresome. Yet, in spite of all the publicity, there are people out there in the wide world who go blithely along, taking and posting these kinds of pictures, then crying when they get misused.
Let's face it, it IS a self-inflicted injury!
Just don't do it. Problem solved!

Here's an idea: $1000 fine AND a year in jail for taking any such picture. If there are no pictures, there can be no "revenge porn"!
Easiest way to prevent trouble. Just don't take em'.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Well I've read a few stories and I definitely think there is a crime somewhere in sending such crap to a persons employer, their childs school, their business associates, neighbors, etc.
Depending on the laws of a given State, it's possible that the transmission of such photos falls under "pandering pornography" or "pandering obscenity."

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AND sometimes the pics are photoshopped, what the hell can you even do about that? Your minister, or your entire church, gets a naked picture of you...it's not you but they don't know that. There are ZERO safeguards to prevent you from being a target of that. None. Apparently I can take your face, shop it on a naked body doing something nasty, and put it on a billboard and claim "free speech". Nope, I'm not going to agree to that. It's a new frontier, and new laws ARE going to be made, because we suck as a society and can't monitor ourselves.
You can sue for defamation. It would fall under libel. That would be a civil remedy, not a criminal remedy, but then no crime has been committed.

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While I wholeheartedly agree that one way to avoid this is to NOT get naked for a camera in the first place it does seem to be a common thing for a lot of people today.
Yes, because Gen Y is selfish, egotistical, self-centered, "me"-oriented, and enjoys prostituting themselves for attention.

Photoshopping....

Mircea
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