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Old 11-12-2013, 11:10 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The safety net has become a spider web, entrapping people into a life of misery. Yet anyone who tries to reform it will be shouted down by Dems and by the DC bureaucracy, whose 6 figure jobs in the DC area depend on millions like this lady and 5 kids.
They HAVE to keep them poor and dumb to get their votes.

 
Old 11-12-2013, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The safety net has become a spider web, entrapping people into a life of misery. Yet anyone who tries to reform it will be shouted down by Dems and by the DC bureaucracy, whose 6 figure jobs in the DC area depend on millions like this lady and 5 kids.
You really think that this is confined solely to the DC area?
Really?

"Regardless of what one thinks about the propriety of food-stamp benefit expansions or cuts, here’s the reality: The business of America’s largest retailer and one of the nation’s most valuable companies—a stock that every index fund owns—is structured in part on the continued flow of federal assistance."

Food Stamp Cuts Add to Walmart
 
Old 11-12-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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This country has become filled with self-centered citizens who possess reduced critical-thinking skills.
Dysgenic fertility. Those who receive public assistance have a birth rate 3 times higher than those who don't. And guess who they vote for...

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Old 11-12-2013, 11:26 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Fair enough. So that whole "liberals want to control where people eat" thing - was that projection or what?

Here's the thing: I actually do agree with you, I don't think that SNAP should be accepted at fast food restaurants either.

And while I prefer not to speak for others, I would imagine that a lot of liberals feel the same.


Sure we may not have the same reasons for our opinions, but, the fact remains that the ultimate conclusion may often the same.
So why the knee-jerk hostility?
I, too, agree that they should not be used in places like that.

I was on food stamps many years ago (early 1970s). At that time, there were definitely restrictions on what I could buy.

Soda, snack food, candy, etc., could not be paid for with food stamps, only FOOD. I think everyone can agree that potato chips are not considered FOOD. One could not survive on a diet of potato chips (or pretzels, or any other 'snack' item). I think that should be the definition of FOOD...food that is prepared and cooked at home. Although a fast-food 'hamburger' could be considered food, it is obtained from a RESTAURANT. Restaurants should not have the ability to accept food stamps.

Fortunately for me, I was not into soda and snack foods then (or now). I did have two young children, and only occasionally could I buy them cookies or candy. We were all much healthier for that...
 
Old 11-12-2013, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I, too, agree that they should not be used in places like that.

I was on food stamps many years ago (early 1970s). At that time, there were definitely restrictions on what I could buy.

Soda, snack food, candy, etc., could not be paid for with food stamps, only FOOD. I think everyone can agree that potato chips are not considered FOOD. One could not survive on a diet of potato chips (or pretzels, or any other 'snack' item). I think that should be the definition of FOOD...food that is prepared and cooked at home. Although a fast-food 'hamburger' could be considered food, it is obtained from a RESTAURANT. Restaurants should not have the ability to accept food stamps.

Fortunately for me, I was not into soda and snack foods then (or now). I did have two young children, and only occasionally could I buy them cookies or candy. We were all much healthier for that...
That is how it should be now. You should not be allowed to buy junk food with food stamps. It has no nutritional value. If it does not fit into one of the 5 food groups it should not be covered under food stamps.
 
Old 11-12-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: texas
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The difference is who's paying the meal ticket.
What is your tax burden to food stamps? Do you even know what part of your tax dollars...if you even pay taxes, is for food stamps. Of course you don't.

Calculate what you suck out of the system...I mean, what benefits you receive versus what you pay...and we will see whom is footing who's bill. You live in a fantasy world if you think your taxes...if you even pay taxes, goes to pay for every social program.

If it did, we would not be trillions in debt.
 
Old 11-12-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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What is your tax burden to food stamps? Do you even know what part of your tax dollars...if you even pay taxes, is for food stamps. Of course you don't.

Calculate what you suck out of the system...I mean, what benefits you receive versus what you pay...and we will see whom is footing who's bill. You live in a fantasy world if you think your taxes...if you even pay taxes, goes to pay for every social program.

If it did, we would not be trillions in debt.
That's just it, no one has a clue. Yet that doesn't stop them from screaming "MY TAXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" It's probably like .01. Oooooo, the agony!!
 
Old 11-12-2013, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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They never stop blaming someone

"Commies. Socialists. Ragheads. Secular humanists. Blacks. ****. Feminazis. The list may change with the political Among the GOP base, there is constant harping about somebody else, some "other," who is Subversives deliberately, assiduously and with malice aforethought subverting the Good, the True and the Beautiful:. needs of the moment, but they always seem to need a scapegoat to hate and fear."
Oh, you mean like the left blaming Bush for EVERYTHING?
 
Old 11-12-2013, 01:42 PM
 
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I, too, agree that they should not be used in places like that.

I was on food stamps many years ago (early 1970s). At that time, there were definitely restrictions on what I could buy.

Soda, snack food, candy, etc., could not be paid for with food stamps, only FOOD. I think everyone can agree that potato chips are not considered FOOD. One could not survive on a diet of potato chips (or pretzels, or any other 'snack' item). I think that should be the definition of FOOD...food that is prepared and cooked at home. Although a fast-food 'hamburger' could be considered food, it is obtained from a RESTAURANT. Restaurants should not have the ability to accept food stamps.

Fortunately for me, I was not into soda and snack foods then (or now). I did have two young children, and only occasionally could I buy them cookies or candy. We were all much healthier for that...
Maybe you were on food stamps prior to 1964 but by the 1970s you could buy anything that was not cooked food at the store with food stamps.

My family was also on them in the 1980s and we frequently "played the food stamp game" in that we would buy a little Debbie snack cake or a quarter bag of chips, get $.75 in change back per child (my dad would send 2-3 of us kids form the neighborhood with $2-$3 worth of food stamps and we each were instructed to buy something for a quarter to get change) then use the combined $.75 pooled together to get something that was not allowed with food stamps - usually cigarettes for Dad or Mom lol. They would write a note and the store keep would let us buy them when I was 7 or 8 years old with the food stamp game money.

There was legislation passed in 1964 which allowed people to buy all sorts of "food stuffs" with food stamps. Including chips and candy and soda. There has never been a restriction on snack foods such as these since 1964.

You may not have bought chips, but you could have if you had food stamps in the 1970s. They were paper based "money" and were worth a specific dollar amount and one did not have a specified list of food you could not buy except for cooked food or food from a restaurant. Alcohol was also prohibited (we played the "food stamp game" and bought that for my dad too - usually beer with a note lol).
 
Old 11-12-2013, 01:55 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Residing here, you may be right. The supermarket cashiers told me I could not buy that stuff with food stamps, so I thought it was the law.!

I used the paper food stamps. The store would only allow a certain amount of real change, but I don't remember what it was; less than a dollar, I'm sure.

In any case, using food stamps or their modern-day counterparts should not be used to buy Taco Bell or Micky D's!
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