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Ah, so it would make sense to simply legalize gay marriage at a federal level, giving equal rights, and be done with it. Or are you one of those people that think we can only deal with one issue at a time?
Well, of course, I am "one of those people".....our government has proven itself inept on every level of dealing with any amount of issues in any amount of time.
And, maybe, yes it should just be changed so homosexuals **** and get over it. But we know it isn't that easy because the Christian nutjobs are just as absurd when it comes to fighting the issue. BUT that doesn't mean you buck what has been a social norm in society for 200+ years for an extreme voting minority. It's simply something that can be brought to the table once the SERIOUS injustices in this country are dealt with.
Like another poster said...
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Originally Posted by totsuka
Many people feel Liberals force change through the courts rather than the ballot box. There is a ring of truth to this and a sad state of affairs.
Homosexuals are exhibit A when it comes to this...
Many people feel Liberals force change through the courts rather than the ballot box. There is a ring of truth to this and a sad state of affairs.
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Originally Posted by Hot_Handz
Homosexuals are exhibit A when it comes to this...
Absolutely. Rarely has any position been so eloquently and succinctly stated.
..... except .....
Sometimes social change - even when totally justified by any moral, ethical, "Christian" standard - just will not happen via the ballot box due to people's ignorant fears and prejudices.
As an example, I give you Brown v. the Board of Education, the unanimous Supreme Court decision stating that separate but equal schools for blacks and whites were inherently unequal.
Would the desegregation of public schools have happened if left to the ballot box? Probably, with time, and in most states ... but perhaps not all, even today. It was a clear injustice whose remedy was blocked long before it came to the ballot box because of the aforementioned fears and prejudices.
Gay marriage is another issue of fairness and equality that is opposed largely in fear and prejudice. It may happen via the ballot box in many states (several have done so already), but if it takes a court decision, so be it.
Nevada should have joined this boat years ago, and advertised the state as a Mecca for same sex couples, and welcomed these folks, (and their cash) to have extravagant weddings in Veags or Reno...think over the top, Libarace style bashes....or even just small, elegant weddings. The state needs the influx of economic capital. Shunning these couples, who want to race to the chapel, unlike heterosexual couples who are now shunning marriage, these same sex couples are getting married in droves. It has been a stupid move to not embrace this...it was going to happen anyway....and now, Nevada is slow to get the gravy train...no doubt, due to the high amount of LDS folks in Nevada, and proximity to Utah.
Well done, New Jersey. I sincerely hope Michigan won't be too far behind. I suspect our gov'nor doesn't care that much one way or the other, but he is easily swayed by teaparty interests in Mich, such as they are.
Nevada should have joined this boat years ago, and advertised the state as a Mecca for same sex couples, and welcomed these folks, (and their cash) to have extravagant weddings in Veags or Reno...think over the top, Libarace style bashes....or even just small, elegant weddings. The state needs the influx of economic capital. Shunning these couples, who want to race to the chapel, unlike heterosexual couples who are now shunning marriage, these same sex couples are getting married in droves. It has been a stupid move to not embrace this...it was going to happen anyway....and now, Nevada is slow to get the gravy train...no doubt, due to the high amount of LDS folks in Nevada, and proximity to Utah.
Just look a Massachusetts.
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In Massachusetts, the Williams Institute estimated that marriage equality added $111 million to the state's economy in the first five years after legalizing same-sex marriages in 2004. That's thanks to wedding spending by same-sex couples who live there, in addition to an influx of same-sex couples coming from elsewhere to say "I do."
And New York.
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In New York the city's comptroller's office estimated that the economic impact of marriage equality would add $142 million to New York City's economy from wedding-related purchases and tourism revenue in the three years after its law passed in 2011, and another $184 million in spending to the state's economy.
And the federal government.
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If same-sex marriage rights were granted nationwide, same-sex weddings would generate a net $1 billion each year for the Federal budget over the next 10 years, according to a 2004 report by Congressional Budget Office. That's after taking into account lower income and estate tax revenues as well as increased spending for health-care benefits and Social Security
So people who cry about liberties being withheld from them will be allowed to actively participate in oppressing other people and refusing them liberty?
Is that what you were trying to say? Maybe you need to "speak into the mic" more.
*taps you on the brain*
HELLLOOOOOOOO
Dude...what I'm saying is you're paranoid. It's good to look at the big picture, but you're doing so through a distorted lens.
These issues aren't connected in any significant way, except that if you are genuinely concerned about erosions of Liberty, the progress of SSM should be comforting, not disturbing.
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