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Old 10-08-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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Well first of all you don't destroy a country's economy by defaulting to fix overspending and debt, what is so difficult for the Tea Party supporters to understand that?
That is faux new/right wing media logic for you. They shut down the government closing visible and invisible services like the sba loans to stop ACA, which is up and running even during the shutdown. Now they want a present for all the damage they have caused.
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Pa
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What did they lie about?
Your insurance will cost the same as your cable bill?
You can cover yourself and your family for the cost of your cellphone bill.
Was that a lie or simply misrepresenting the facts?

Obama: Under Obamacare, health care will cost less than your cell phone bill - YouTube
I haven't seen any costs lower than $130.00 a month.
My cell bill is $80 a month. look at 1.02 minutes in the video....
a Lie or an exaggeration.
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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John McCain, the guy that most on the right voted for in 2008, admitted that Republicans started the shutdown fight with the false premise that Obamacare would be repealed.

“We started out with a false premise here on this side of the aisle and that’s that we were somehow going to repeal ObamaCare,” McCain said. “To think that we’re going to repeal ObamaCare … was a false premise, and I think did the American people a great disservice by telling them that we could.”

McCain: Deal could be reached if lawmakers stopped

It's time for other Republicans to admit the same thing. The ACA is here to stay so it's time for Republicans to pass a clean CR and govern for a change.
Politically speaking, McCain never met a fight where he would not throw in the towel.

McCain is a member of the political establishment, he see the ACA as a huge power grab by the government, and he likes all that power. He knows that one day his party will be in the majority again, and all that power to rule will be his party's turn to wield.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: USA
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For many, these costs are a real possibility in the future based on the fact that millions more will enter the insurance pool and the fact that there is already increased competition due to the exchanges. Also depends on what the states do. States like Vermont, California, and Minnesota could have a single payer system in the near future with the lowest insurance costs in the nation. Time will tell.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:35 PM
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McCain. No one but the left cares what you have to say anymore. Get lost. Retire. Take your bi-partisanship traitor butt to the retirement home. This man has no principles and doesnt really stand for anything.
This post is symbolic of everything that is wrong with the GOP right now. Doing something that might benefit the US economy and the American people that is not 100% in line with the teabagger agenda is now considered akin to treason. I am so glad that most of the Tea Party is old and is going to die soon. I am sick of our entire political process being hijacked by a group of elderly, racist curmudgeons.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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For many, these costs are a real possibility in the future based on the fact that millions more will enter the insurance pool and the fact that there is already increased competition due to the exchanges. Also depends on what the states do. States like Vermont, California, and Minnesota could have a single payer system in the near future with the lowest insurance costs in the nation. Time will tell.
What competition in the exchanges? They all have to conform their health insurance policies to a one size fits all federal law.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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This post is symbolic of everything that is wrong with the GOP right now. Doing something that might benefit the US economy and the American people that is not 100% in line with the teabagger agenda is now considered akin to treason. I am so glad that most of the Tea Party is old and is going to die soon. I am sick of our entire political process being hijacked by a group of elderly, racist curmudgeons.
I think it's treason for Tea Party members to be celebrating a government shut down, and cheering on the default as no big deal. They are hell bent on the idea that somehow destroying the country is a good thing so that we can rebuild it in some way they see fit. Here's an idea, why don't they back off and sell those idea's in the next election, try to get a majority in congress and pass those laws.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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I voted for him, not I want him to retire. We need new blood who isn't afraid to fight for what's right. I wonder how he got all those metals if he wasn't willing to fight.
We want the new republicans like Ted Cruz... The future...
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:45 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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This post is symbolic of everything that is wrong with the GOP right now. Doing something that might benefit the US economy and the American people that is not 100% in line with the teabagger agenda is now considered akin to treason. I am so glad that most of the Tea Party is old and is going to die soon. I am sick of our entire political process being hijacked by a group of elderly, racist curmudgeons.
Well said.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:47 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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I think it's treason for Tea Party members to be celebrating a government shut down, and cheering on the default as no big deal. They are hell bent on the idea that somehow destroying the country is a good thing so that we can rebuild it in some way they see fit. Here's an idea, why don't they back off and sell those idea's in the next election, try to get a majority in congress and pass those laws.
Again......well said.

(I couldn't rep you again.)
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