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Old 09-13-2013, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
So if someone doesn't make enough money they should blame the government???

Did you hear that at a Communist meeting???
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
Giving money to the poor is making the rich richer and the poor poorer???????

What the.......?????????
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
The reason why the poor are poorer is because they are getting more wealth????????

Do you guys even read what you write??
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So the government is giving poor people less money??????


or maybe not......
Lol! Keep at it. Sooner or later they'll understand what you're saying/how logic works in a discussion...

 
Old 09-13-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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Obama wants tax cuts for middle class Americans, health insurance for all middle class Americans, high wages for the middle class, to help middle class home foreclosure victims, ex.ex.
What tax cuts for the middle class has Obama proposed?
Obamacare is a TAX, and will leave 30,000,000 people uninsured
Simply saying high wages for the middle class is crap because everyone supports high wages
Forclosure victims?
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And you/republicans only want tax cuts like these (and adding the following $6.6 trillion dollars to our national debt), so the rich can use that money to build US factories in Asia and buy themselves new jet airplanes.

Romney's Economic Plan Includes $6.6 Trillion Tax Cut For The Rich And Corporations | ThinkProgress

HOW IS OBAMA STRANGLING THE MIDDLE CLASS ??
The Obama stimulus package alone added $3.2trillion to the national debt.. Save the nonsense for another forum where people dont know better.
 
Old 09-13-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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And the GOP's solution to the problem is to cut taxes more for the rich and also cut programs that the poor and middle class use.

That should reduce the income gap!
Justifying your hate by posting kook theories about economics, isnt the topic of the thread..
 
Old 09-13-2013, 09:05 AM
 
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Lol! Keep at it. Sooner or later they'll understand what you're saying/how logic works in a discussion...
Please share with me how increasing programs which perpetuate poverty, helps reduce poverty.. I really want to here these theories of yours which defies common sense.
 
Old 09-13-2013, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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This type of wealth gap is the way it is in most of the world and throughout history. Americans decided to eliminate unions and throw themselves right infront of the big corporate freight train.

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I am consistently respectful of private sector unions who lifted the masses onto the lower rungs of middle-class. Unions peaked in the 50's, before competition and technology. The rest of the world is not going to pay a premium for U.S. exports so that U.S. people can have a higher standard of living. U.S. people are not going to pay more for goods/services so that U.S. people can have a higher standard of living.

Technology has permanently eliminated tens of millions of jobs. Most recently, 1/3 of all manufacturing jobs were eliminated in the period of 2000-2010 due to technology. Manufacturing shed 20% of its jobs in the period of 2000-7. Today,U.S. manufacturers employ substantially fewer people and produce more goods, due to technology.

Instead of focusing on the real issue, the U.S. people blame government, political parties and presidents. People have become very wealthy/ corporations very profitable feeding consistent propaganda to the masses to sustain the bipartisan hype. Media is always on the Spin Cycle.

The U.S. had historically had the greatest wealth gap compared to other developed nations.
 
Old 09-13-2013, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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And the GOP's solution to the problem is to cut taxes more for the rich and also cut programs that the poor and middle class use.

That should reduce the income gap!
Seems a lot of people might feel better about their lots in life, when they can punish the poor for being poor.

That Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act of 1996 required welfare recipients to work at least 20 hours a week to continue to be eligible for welfare and made the states responsible for enforcement. This was a Republican " feel good" initiative. CATO Institute reported that 80% of the jobs held by welfare recipients were and remain wholly or partially subsidized by government.

While not the objective of this particular report, it demonstrated that the U.S. does not have a sufficient number of entry level, low paying jobs to sustain the masses despite that there has been and continues to be a trend towards part time job since the late 60's and that retail and food services have been the nation's largest private sector employers since the late 80's.

And somehow, we are led to perceive a political party or any president or congressional majority is going to magically turn the tide.
 
Old 09-13-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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I am consistently respectful of private sector unions who lifted the masses onto the lower rungs of middle-class. Unions peaked in the 50's, before competition and technology. The rest of the world is not going to pay a premium for U.S. exports so that U.S. people can have a higher standard of living. U.S. people are not going to pay more for goods/services so that U.S. people can have a higher standard of living.

Technology has permanently eliminated tens of millions of jobs. Most recently, 1/3 of all manufacturing jobs were eliminated in the period of 2000-2010 due to technology. Manufacturing shed 20% of its jobs in the period of 2000-7. Today,U.S. manufacturers employ substantially fewer people and produce more goods, due to technology.

Instead of focusing on the real issue, the U.S. people blame government, political parties and presidents. People have become very wealthy/ corporations very profitable feeding consistent propaganda to the masses to sustain the bipartisan hype. Media is always on the Spin Cycle.

The U.S. had historically had the greatest wealth gap compared to other developed nations.
Unions did no such thing. The masses reached into the middle class because of personal greed of people like Henry Ford, who figured out that by reducing the number of hours worked, and by increasing his employees salaries, that they would become more productive, quit less, thus lower turnover costs, and he would make more money..

Unions didnt get legal authority until DECADES later.
 
Old 09-13-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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This simply is one of the single greatest problems facing this nation. So far not many concrete solutions or even a willingness to attempt to solve it.
Greater redistribution of wealth is the tactic used by those nations with smaller gaps between wealth and the poverty.
 
Old 09-13-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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This simply is one of the single greatest problems facing this nation. So far not many concrete solutions or even a willingness to attempt to solve it.
The greatest problem seems to me is the lack of jobs!

Funny, this idea of income equality only really came to the forefront when Obama took office. He fomented this idea. He actively divides Americans.

When the economy was humming along, that idea was on the heap of socialist trash (remember...socialism has failed).

Even under Clinton, as long as the economy was good, we were pretty happy. Clinton didn't demonize success. And he even made (gasp!) welfare recipients try to get a job! He was as obviously a far right wing nut job!

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Old 09-13-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Notice how there's all this bemoaning of an income gap, but very little discussion of the personal responsibility gap that precipitates the income gap.
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