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Old 08-15-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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It's a good trait when the self control has a positive outcome... i.e. controlling yourself from eating everything in sight, as that would lead to obesity, diabetes, etc. How does controlling your desire to be with somebody of the same sex benefit someone? How does pretending to be something you're not, deceiving people (by pretending to be in love with someone of the opposite sex), lying, and causing yourself mental anguish benefit them?

I'm not talking about promiscuity, either, as that isn't specific to gay people - I'm talking more about your average homosexual, who just wants to find someone special with whom to share their lives. I know many gay couples, and all but one or two are "serial monogamists" or in a long-lasting marriage/DP. Oh, and don't give me a religion-based answer either, since that only applies to people who believe in that stuff.
What do these people want? Do they really want me, as a gay man, to marry a women?

Taratova: Do you by chance have a daughter or sister or niece of cousin whom you would give your blessing for me to court and marry?
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's a good trait when the self control has a positive outcome... i.e. controlling yourself from eating everything in sight, as that would lead to obesity, diabetes, etc. How does controlling your desire to be with somebody of the same sex benefit someone? How does pretending to be something you're not, deceiving people (by pretending to be in love with someone of the opposite sex), lying, and causing yourself mental anguish benefit them?

I'm not talking about promiscuity, either, as that isn't specific to gay people - I'm talking more about your average homosexual, who just wants to find someone special with whom to share their lives. I know many gay couples, and all but one or two are "serial monogamists" or in a long-lasting marriage/DP. Oh, and don't give me a religion-based answer either, since that only applies to people who believe in that stuff.
They take on the identity of a homosexual... they live in an all gay world . One was a child once and finds themselves in all kinds of situations . One has a role in what they accept , what they believe. We are complex beings and above all God loves us where ever we are. He created all of us . I am telling you the truth . I wish you no ill will. God just wants the best for all of us. His love is above any love here on earth.
A man can love another man deeply but to have a sexual relationship is crossing the line. Having such feelings should not be entertained. This is the spirit of confusion ,having admiration, emotions, and running away with thoughts of love in a romantic manner is the seducing spirit for a person of the same sex. To entertain this thought is the spirit of confusion. One knows they are a man , and yet they have feelings for another man.. seducing spirits leading the mind . Nothing new. God knows all and he knows our very thoughts.
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What do these people want? Do they really want me, as a gay man, to marry a women?

Taratova: Do you by chance have a daughter or sister or niece of cousin whom you would give your blessing for me to court and marry?
God has someone in mind. All things are possible with God.
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:30 PM
 
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God has someone in mind.
And I'm sure he'll be wonderful.
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:33 PM
 
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They take on the identity of a homosexual... they live in an all gay world .
What does this mean and where are you getting it from?

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A man can love another man deeply but to have a sexual relationship is crossing the line.
Why?

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Having such feelings should not be entertained.
Why not?
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:49 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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They take on the identity of a homosexual... they live in an all gay world . One was a child once and finds themselves in all kinds of situations . One has a role in what they accept , what they believe. We are complex beings and above all God loves us where ever we are. He created all of us . I am telling you the truth . I wish you no ill will. God just wants the best for all of us. His love is above any love here on earth.
A man can love another man deeply but to have a sexual relationship is crossing the line. Having such feelings should not be entertained. This is the spirit of confusion ,having admiration, emotions, and running away with thoughts of love in a romantic manner is the seducing spirit for a person of the same sex. To entertain this thought is the spirit of confusion. One knows they are a man , and yet they have feelings for another man.. seducing spirits leading the mind . Nothing new. God knows all and he knows our very thoughts.
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God has someone in mind. All things are possible with God.
In other words, you cannot answer my question without bringing religion into the discussion (as I expected) - and since your beliefs are yours alone, that basically means you have NO answer that is relevant to the subject at hand. Thanks for confirming my point!
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:50 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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And I'm sure he'll be wonderful.
You deserve someone wonderful, hammer, and I know he's out there somewhere!
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Old 08-15-2013, 09:51 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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What do these people want? Do they really want me, as a gay man, to marry a women?
Hey, it worked for Rock Hudson! Oh wait......
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Boise
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You can be gay all you want, in your own bedroom in Russia.

Why does it have to be a person's identity? And why do you feel like you got to push your bangin in the butt lifestyle on others?

Maybe, they don't want their sons growing up bangin other dudes in the butt or getting banged in the butt.

Some people want to smoke crack. Should we legalize crack? I'm sure some people get a thrill from murder.

Maybe we should legalize murder to appease the murderers. Sometimes in life, you don't get what you want.

Deal with it.

That's why they make laws, to protect people. If everyone was gay, there would be no population growth, so assuming that we were put on this planet to procreate like every other species on earth, gayness is abnormal.

So, why should people have to deal with someone telling their society that should accept a person's deviant behavior.

Look man, take away Tom Cruise, Jamie Foxx, and John Travolta...what do you got left?

All the glamour is gone.

At the end of the day, you got one dude on top of another dude going power drive, eyes bulging out, gangum style on a dude's butt. And the dude on the bottom, sometimes, I bet they end up in that position because of peer pressure, just like a person's heart may tell them not hit that crack pipe, but there friends are telling them to do it.

And how do you feel afterwards? Shame.

So hey man, maybe you into dudes bangin you in the butt, but never in my life am I gonna be outside with sign hangin up sayin, "let other men bang other men in the butt."

Because if that happened to me, that would be the worst experience in my life. People take lives for that.

I know of a guy that killed a guy because of it.

So, why does everyone got to be like you? Not everyone wants to be you. YOU be YOU.

Let other people be them. Stay outta their business.

did someone say "banged in the butt"?????? yes please!
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Old 08-15-2013, 11:15 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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You make the decision to get banged in the ass.

Look man, if I wanted to I could get rid of my girl right now and go join a monetary. That's a decision I would make.

It's called Discipline.
A "monetary?"
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