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Old 08-08-2013, 04:41 PM
 
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Now they are against the death panels that don't even exist according to many around here. lol

A wave of vulnerable Democrats over the past three months has signed on to bills repealing the board’s powers, including Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.) and Reps. Ron Barber (Ariz.), Ann Kirkpatrick (Ariz.), Kyrsten Sinema (Ariz.) and Elizabeth Esty (Conn.).
All five are considered vulnerable in next year’s election, highlighting the stakes and the political angst surrounding the healthcare measure.
The four House Democrats faced criticism from their party in July after voting with Republicans to delay ObamaCare's individual and employer mandates — moves widely interpreted as political positioning ahead of 2014.
Two of the lawmakers explained their opposition by suggesting the board would limit care for Medicare patients.
But the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) blasted the four Democrats for “desperately trying to jump off the ObamaCare train.”
The cost-cutting board has been dogged with controversy over the last three years.
Major healthcare interests like the American Medical Association, the American Hospital Association and the pharmaceutical lobby have supported IPAB repeal, saying the panel would cut providers' pay arbitrarily.

Read more: ObamaCare

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Old 08-08-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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More promising news on the obamacare front............

Most of the 24 health care co-ops created under Obamacare are in danger of running out of money before they even begin offering health insurance to consumers, according to the Inspector General for the Department of Health and Human Services.
The 24 nonprofits, intended to create competition for private insurance companies, are funded by a $2 billion loan program authorized by Obamacare to cover their startup costs. The co-ops are expected to become self-sustaining and repay their loans with interest.
But 11 of the 16 co-ops the IG reviewed said they expect startup costs to exceed what they received from the Department of Health and Human Services via the loans, and none of those reviewed by the IG have enough private support to fund them once they're up and running, even though private support was one of the criteria for preference during the loan award process.


HHS IG fears Obamacare co-ops will run out of money before enrolling first customers | WashingtonExaminer.com
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Pa
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We have until October to figure it out.
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:45 PM
 
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But but but the GOP's biggest fear is that Obamacare is going to work.
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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So far it does raise premiums and make the insurances scramble for competition.
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:01 PM
 
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Like grains of sand in the Sahara Silly Obama.....
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Old 08-08-2013, 08:56 PM
 
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But but but the GOP's biggest fear is that Obamacare is going to work.



Nice little BS mantra the Dems came up with out of thin air huh?
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Old 08-08-2013, 08:57 PM
 
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So far it does raise premiums and make the insurances scramble for competition.







But, but.....but it's called the "Affordable Care Act".



"I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year."
- B. Obama



Obama Promises To Lower Health Insurance Premiums by $2,500 Per Year - YouTube
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:06 PM
 
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Now they are against the death panels that don't even exist according to many around here. lol

A wave of vulnerable Democrats over the past three months has signed on to bills repealing the board’s powers, including Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.) and Reps. Ron Barber (Ariz.), Ann Kirkpatrick (Ariz.), Kyrsten Sinema (Ariz.) and Elizabeth Esty (Conn.).
All five are considered vulnerable in next year’s election, highlighting the stakes and the political angst surrounding the healthcare measure.
The four House Democrats faced criticism from their party in July after voting with Republicans to delay ObamaCare's individual and employer mandates — moves widely interpreted as political positioning ahead of 2014.
Two of the lawmakers explained their opposition by suggesting the board would limit care for Medicare patients.
But the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) blasted the four Democrats for “desperately trying to jump off the ObamaCare train.”
The cost-cutting board has been dogged with controversy over the last three years.
Major healthcare interests like the American Medical Association, the American Hospital Association and the pharmaceutical lobby have supported IPAB repeal, saying the panel would cut providers' pay arbitrarily.

Read more: ObamaCare


I don't believe in these so called death panels. But I do think we spend way too much money trying to keep people alive who just want to go on their own terms and with dignity.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:28 AM
 
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Confession time for me: I watch Fox news and was particularly entertained by Hemmer going bat chit on a senator or congressman he had on there who was trying to push an amendment through the house that would prevent congress from having the ability to exempt themselves from Obamacare.

He had an ally on the line and he still couldn't help himself from being angry enough to refer to him in the plural "YOU GUYS".

This is fun to watch play out: "we have to pass the bill to see whats in it." NOW "we see whats in it and don't want to be part of it".

What a bunch of fugging morons!

The congressman stated quite plainly that instead of being "servants of the people" the Congress considers itself the "ruling class".
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