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Old 06-24-2013, 10:05 PM
 
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Bishop chides Obama for religious caricature


DUBLIN - A bishop in Northern Ireland accused President Barack Obama of a "hackneyed" analysis of the political situation in the region.


Auxiliary Bishop Donal McKeown of Down and Connor said some parts of the president's June 17 speech in Belfast, Northern Ireland, echoed "the Protestant/Catholic caricature that has actually receded into the background in Northern Ireland."

He said that "it is the Catholic schools in Northern Ireland that are now actually among the most racially and linguistically mixed. And, while so many young people are very open to new friendships and opportunities, it needs to be stated that it is adults outside schools who promote mistrust for their own political and personal agendas."
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Old 06-24-2013, 10:24 PM
 
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From the Catholic League a major critic of Obama.

http://www.catholicleague.org/obamas...tholic-speech/

There are plenty of reasons to be critical of President Obama’s policies as they relate to the Catholic Church, and I have not been shy in stating them. But the reaction on the part of conservatives, many of whom are Catholic, over his speech in Ireland, is simply insane. Never did Obama say he wants “an end to Catholic education.” Indeed, he never said anything critical about the nature of Catholic schools. It makes me wonder: Have any of his critics bothered to actually read his speech?
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Old 06-24-2013, 10:55 PM
 
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Bishop chides Obama for religious caricature


DUBLIN - A bishop in Northern Ireland accused President Barack Obama of a "hackneyed" analysis of the political situation in the region.


Auxiliary Bishop Donal McKeown of Down and Connor said some parts of the president's June 17 speech in Belfast, Northern Ireland, echoed "the Protestant/Catholic caricature that has actually receded into the background in Northern Ireland."

He said that "it is the Catholic schools in Northern Ireland that are now actually among the most racially and linguistically mixed. And, while so many young people are very open to new friendships and opportunities, it needs to be stated that it is adults outside schools who promote mistrust for their own political and personal agendas."
"receded into the backgound?"

http://www.euroviews.eu/?p=647

In 1998 the Good Friday agreement was signed in Northern Ireland, a settlement to promote peace, unify the country and stop the violence. Today 15 years later 90% of the students go to segregated schools.

Belfast, United Kingdom: - Sectarianism is still a big problem here. People are not being killed anymore but the politics are still induced by sectarianism and the peace we have is incredibly fragile. As the recent flag protest demonstrates it does not take much to poison political discourse, which is why we still need to do a lot to build a more interconnected society, says Tony Gallagher, professor of education at the Queen’s University in Belfast who has specialised in integration and the education system.
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- Once you send kids to a separated school you start certain social processes: friendship networks and cultural patterns which are carried on to the rest of their life and creates a separation. I do not think there is anything wrong in Protestants or Catholics running their own schools as long as they recognize that there is a social cost. No matter how dedicated the schools are to promoting reconciliation, if all conversation only include people from one group it is hard to do it seriously, says Tony Gallagher.

The religious divide in Northern Ireland's schools | News | guardian.co.uk

Almost half of Northern Ireland's schoolchildren are being taught in schools where 95% or more of the pupils are of the same religion.
Detailed data obtained by The Detail, an investigative news website in Belfast, also found that 180 schools in the last academic year had no Protestant pupils on their rolls and another 111 schools taught no Catholic children.
The seriousness of the religious divide was brought to the fore by First Minister and DUP leader Peter Robinson in October 2010 when he described the Northern Ireland education system as a "benign form of apartheid which is fundamentally damaging to our society".
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Jesus christ, this thread proves that if Obama opens his mouth, conservatives will find something to whine about.

Seriously, I even think they would attribute stuff he's never said to him if he just stood at a podium for an hour with just his mouth hanging open.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:35 PM
 
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Doesn't work that way, today.

So get over it? Move on? Blame your parents? They knew the "abuse" they paid for you to receive.
LOL I am over it and have moved on. And why would I blame my parents They had no idea about the abuse. There's a reason that many of these schools have closed over the years.
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