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Old 06-16-2013, 08:05 PM
 
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Many parts of this country are just as corrupt and violent as some areas of Mexico.
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:10 PM
 
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Mexico and Chicago.

There is a difference?
Says the person from......Los Angeles?!?!?!
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Old 06-16-2013, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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On a more serious note.



Here is a map of the June murders in Chicago from a site that doing precisely what you are suggesting.

June, 2013 - Tracking homicides in Chicago - Tracking homicides in Chicago | RedeyeChicago.com
The Milwaukee Journal provides that same kind of tracking information. This is a good tool.

But what I was talking about was coming up with homicide rates, at the close of each year, for each neighborhood. As opposed to a rate for the whole city. Actually, both should be done.

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I would add that anyone really interested in what has been going on in Chicago should read the some of the excellent coverage that one has come to expect from the Chicago Tribune.

Gang Activity news, photos and video - chicagotribune.com

Or Ebony Magazine (especially for those who think that African American community is oblivious to the issue)

[ENOUGH] Chicago's Gang Culture Remixed - News & Views - EBONY
I noticed the author of the article stated she was middle-class in Chicago. On its South Side. Yet exposed to the gang culture and violence.

That's not uncommon in the Midwestern black middle-class. The Sherman Park neighborhood in Milwaukee I mentioned earlier that had a higher homicide rate than one Rio favela during a same year, is traditionally a middle-class, black, neighborhood. Further towards St. Joseph hospital being more whites and Orthodox Jews. But around the park area and east of the park is about as crime ridden as any middle-class neighborhood in a developing nation like Mexico and Brazil I would say.

I also noticed she mentioned scuffing the shoes in Chicago during the early '90s could have led to death. When I mention to people unfamiliar with Midwestern hoods that lightly brushing against someone at a black nightclub would likely (at least back then) cause a confrontation and possibly a fight, they think I'm exaggerating.

But this black woman's own published article from her middle-class life in Chicago exonerates me.

I loved how the black middle-class of Virginia chilled out, and shocked me how a big bump in a nightclub would result in a black guy saying, "Excuse me." Flabbergasted me. They were just learning of the Chicago based gangs in the early '90s when I was in Virginia. The Vice Lords had just entered Portsmouth around that time. But they had already had a long history in Milwaukee.
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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Happy Fathers Day Chicago. The weekend is only half over and 37 people have been shot.
I thought Gun control worked in that city.

Sounds like a Mexican Border city.

7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence | NBC Chicago
Sadly, there are virtually no "fathers" in that area of Chicago, just sperm donors.
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Old 06-17-2013, 05:58 AM
 
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I wouldn't hesitate to go to Chicago...I will never ever cross the border for any reason.

In Chigago, you may get caught up in some truff warfare, but In Mexico, they seek you out. In mexico you never know who the bad guy is...Cop, Judge or street thug.

"In mexico, you never know who the bad guy is... Cop, Judge or street thug."

Obviously you have never lived in Illinois, which is akin to a third world nation with its level of corruption in the political and court system. Bribery is considered routine there.

I would offer that MOST of Chicago is pretty safe, and the "safe" areas have increased in size since the 1970s. The area around Comisky, Univ of Chicago, and the Ancient History Museum used to be very dicey. Now, it is much better. The "Gold Coast", with the exception of a few isolated incidents, is very safe. Caprini Green is gone and areas encroaching on the northern part of the south side are being "gentrified".

However, the south central and south east side have become worse. The South Side needs to hire a guy like they did in Benton Harbor.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:13 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Happy Fathers Day Chicago. The weekend is only half over and 37 people have been shot.
I thought Gun control worked in that city.

Sounds like a Mexican Border city.

7 Dead, 30 Wounded in Weekend Violence | NBC Chicago
If you're a black man, places in Texas can be hazardous to your health.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:16 AM
 
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It appears that Omaha is a very dangerous place:

Omaha suffers rash of shootings in less than 1 hour; 3 dead - CNN.com

Let us all avoid Omaha, steaks included.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:13 AM
 
Location: USA
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Prohibition??


Aren't both Chicago and Mexico dangerous because of the drug trade??


Are some people just gonna keep acting like its some unsolvable problem?? The solution is staring you dead in the face.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Holy crap! I live in a city of comparable size and we don't have that many shootings in a YEAR!

LOL...Montreal isn't comparable in size to Chicago.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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On another note, Chicago received a record or near-record 46 million visitors in 2012. People aren't exactly shying away from the city. The violence in Chicago is mainly confined to a relatively few neighborhoods. It's still quite sad though.
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