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Old 06-08-2013, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Obama said this when?
FLASHBACK: Obama Tells Graduates to Reject Voices Warning of Government Tyranny - Katie Pavlich
So ironic how much tyranny has been exposed since this speech just last month.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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FLASHBACK: Obama Tells Graduates to Reject Voices Warning of Government Tyranny - Katie Pavlich
So ironic how much tyranny has been exposed since this speech just last month.
LOL..coincidence ?

"Listen to me, not to them"

And why not. The youth grew up with terrorism all around them and the need for government protection.
They don't know any better and will believe him.

Those that are 21 today were only 10-11 when 9-11 happened. The War on Terror is part of their life.

Let him go try that speech at an AARP meeting
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:08 AM
 
Location: texas
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Is the administration using this massive surveillance to find Tea Party supporters like they did with the IRS? Sure they could get support from congress and judges if they say there is an imminent danger. But what they do with the information is up to the leanings of the bureaucrat doing the wiretap. Americans have lost all confidence in the government and especially in the current administration. We need to go back to protecting our constitution. (OOPs another one of those evil keywords.)
I think your confusing the IRS and the NSA. Not every government agency has
surveillance capability...I doubt that matters much to you, but there it is.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I think your confusing the IRS and the NSA. Not every government agency has
surveillance capability...I doubt that matters much to you, but there it is.
But almost every government agency has data.

FDR used the Census Bureau data to hunt down and round up Japanese-Americans and put them in interment camps.
The government denied that until 2007. Up until 2007 it was tin foil and conspiracy theory.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:16 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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LOL..coincidence ?

"Listen to me, not to them"

And why not. The youth grew up with terrorism all around them and the need for government protection.
They don't know any better and will believe him.

Those that are 21 today were only 10-11 when 9-11 happened. The War on Terror is part of their life.

Let him go try that speech at an AARP meeting
Fear is the easiest way to control people. Remember how fear was used in the presidential campaign.

They'll put you back in chains
Vote with your lady parts
The right is the Taliban

Obama is saying

“If tyranny and oppression come to this land it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.â€
― James Madison
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I see "Christians" and "Conservatives" constantly talked about as hurdles of the social change that Americans want.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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Is the administration using this massive surveillance to find Tea Party supporters like they did with the IRS? Sure they could get support from congress and judges if they say there is an imminent danger. But what they do with the information is up to the leanings of the bureaucrat doing the wiretap. Americans have lost all confidence in the government and especially in the current administration. We need to go back to protecting our constitution. (OOPs another one of those evil keywords.)
If it is to find terrorists and dissidents, it's doing a very lousy job. All I see is privacy being curtailed ever since the times of the Patriot Act.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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President Obama spoke of the need for a vibrant press, and administration officials have staked their claim to bringing more transparency to government than any administration before it.

The Obama administration offered a forceful defense of its decision to secretly obtain more than two months of telephone records from Associated Press journalists. AP lawyers charged this week that the Justice Department conducted a "massive and unprecedented intrusion" into its news-gathering process when federal prosecutors secretly obtained two months of phone records.

Then there is the DOJ going after Rosen of Fox, and everyone knows Obama hates Fox. He tells Holden to investigate himself.

Now every American is under surveillance.

Who defines terrorist.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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President Obama spoke of the need for a vibrant press, and administration officials have staked their claim to bringing more transparency to government than any administration before it.

The Obama administration offered a forceful defense of its decision to secretly obtain more than two months of telephone records from Associated Press journalists. AP lawyers charged this week that the Justice Department conducted a "massive and unprecedented intrusion" into its news-gathering process when federal prosecutors secretly obtained two months of phone records.

Then there is the DOJ going after Rosen of Fox, and everyone knows Obama hates Fox. He tells Holden to investigate himself.

Now every American is under surveillance.

Who defines terrorist.
It seems the definition is fluid.
Now a terrorist is a deranged US citizen or legal immigrant living right here in the good old US of A.
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Obama said this when?
May 2013.

FLASHBACK: Obama Tells Graduates to Reject Voices Warning of Government Tyranny - Katie Pavlich
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