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Old 06-07-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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Who gets to decide what national secrets should be divulged to the public the media or the government?
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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Depends on the secret. Depends on who might or might not get stepped on. Depends on who interests might be I jeaprody. Depends on a lot.
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Old 06-08-2013, 04:33 AM
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Who gets to decide what national secrets should be divulged to the public the media or the government?
The ones we elect, not the ones that elect themselves.
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Old 06-08-2013, 05:11 AM
 
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Who gets to decide what national secrets should be divulged to the public the media or the government?
Funny that those who think that our safety is best left unserved are the "flower children" of the Left and the "Oblackman in WH" haters on the Right. Hmmmm, are they working together????
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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Depends on the secret. Depends on who might or might not get stepped on. Depends on who interests might be I jeaprody. Depends on a lot.
That is the problem isn't it.

Generally speaking journalist no longer have military experience, and they certainly don't have experience in law enforcement or intelligence. Some have no more understanding of the computers on their desk than the man in the moon much less the internet or data mining. But they all know a good story when they think they seem one and it doesn't take much for editors to get all puffy in the chest when it comes to holding public officials feet to the fire...especially around contest time (the real poison of journalism).

Which makes me wonder...

Would the today's media have kept the D-Day invasion a secret? How about the fact that the Allies had broken the Axis codes? Somewhere in the back of my mind I think that someone would fail to keep those secrets.
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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That is the problem isn't it.

Generally speaking journalist no longer have military experience, and they certainly don't have experience in law enforcement or intelligence. Some have no more understanding of the computers on their desk than the man in the moon much less the internet or data mining. But they all know a good story when they think they seem one and it doesn't take much for editors to get all puffy in the chest when it comes to holding public officials feet to the fire...especially around contest time (the real poison of journalism).

Which makes me wonder...

Would the today's media have kept the D-Day invasion a secret? How about the fact that the Allies had broken the Axis codes? Somewhere in the back of my mind I think that someone would fail to keep those secrets.
Today's media folks are nothing more than opinionated bloggers working for companies that pay them for their biased news stories.
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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Today's media folks are nothing more than opinionated bloggers working for companies that pay them for their biased news stories.
Chris Matthews' salary per year for Hardball? $5 million annually. Pretty good pay to keep the masses uninformed.

His net worth $16 Million.
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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Would the today's media have kept the D-Day invasion a secret? How about the fact that the Allies had broken the Axis codes? Somewhere in the back of my mind I think that someone would fail to keep those secrets.
There's no obvious distinction in principle between keeping D-Day secret and keeping anything else, the Pentagon Papers for instance, secret; merely the fact that more Americans feel sympathy for Vietnamese peasants than for Nazi soldiers.

Secrecy is an essential feature of totalitarian systems, and I would say we are warranted in not traveling even an inch further down that road than we already have. Citizens have privacy rights, governments have public obligations.
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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Default Who gets to decide what national secrets should be divulged to the public the media or the government?

I vote for the Press when a government redefines 'due process' and 'rule of law'.
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Old 06-08-2013, 12:29 PM
 
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Who gets to decide what national secrets should be divulged to the public the media or the government?
Before you answer that I think you need to define who the media is.

Does <insert big wig journalist> get a pass and some blogger doesn't?
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