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Old 05-17-2013, 05:53 AM
 
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NoJiveMan,
I sort of agree with you. Yes Richard Nixon used the claim that he couldn't release the tapes for national security reasons and that you couldn't trust congress etc...executive privilege, etc...

However, that tactic didn't work for Richard Nixon, because the people believed that if he wouldn't release the tapes it meant that he had something to hide.

I don't know why you are defending Richard Nixon's right to have kept the tapes secret - it is for the better of the country that sun light was shone on the corruption to disinfect it.

Release the Tapes!

Release the first two days of emails!

Nixon and Obama what are they trying to hide?
Why are we only talking about first two days of emails? I want it all released. Specifically the security requests, who received them, the responses, details and such of previous attacks, etc. All that is relevant and needed to find the truth.

WH is stonewalling
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:56 AM
 
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Classified information, secret or top secret, need to know basis.
What information could be considered top secret at this point? The embassies are destroyed, people are dead, there is nothing left. Whats left to protect?
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:59 AM
 
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The problems with that is congress-persons cannot be trusted to keep from leaking information that isn't supposed to be leaked.


Republicans Reveal Location Of Secret CIA Base During House Hearing On Libya Attacks | ThinkProgress
Who is the DEM Senator who was removed from the Intelligence Committee for leaking data he wasn't supposed to?

His nickname is Leaky Leahy.


"Throughout his career, Senator Leahy has been caught leaking sensitive information to the press when doing so benefitted him or hampered his political opponents. Senator Leahy leaked information about a plan to topple Ghadafi, about an intercept related to the Achille Lauro, and about an investigation into the Iran-Contra deals. These leaks eventually caused him to resign his vice-chairmanship of the Senate Intelligence Committee and earned him the nickname "Leaky Leahy".
Patrick Leahy - "Leaky Leahy"
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:00 AM
 
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What information could be considered top secret at this point? The embassies are destroyed, people are dead, there is nothing left. Whats left to protect?
The truth. Its that simple. Nothing regarding this has anything to do with national security at this point. Obama and Hillary could've easily cleared all this up a long time ago if they weren't concerned with how this info will make them look. If it would help their case, does anyone with a brain honestly believe they'd keep it hidden? The ONLY reason to hide so much is because it would hurt them.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:02 AM
 
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They hand picked the emails they wanted to release, what a JOKE.
I heard 1 Congressman say there are over 2,500 pages and the WH only released 100.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:04 AM
 
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I heard 1 Congressman say there are over 2,500 pages and the WH only released 100.
I think it was even more than that. Its simply amazing they get away with this.

I still blame the press for letting them get away with it. If they kept up the pressure it would gain steam, but they wont. They're already returning to defending this Admin again.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:14 AM
 
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Because the first two days go something like this:

Sept. 11th night: "Where is the President? Our guys are still under attack. Shouldn't we try to send help?"
WH: "Shhh, the President's sleeping."

Sept. 12th- "What a disaster. Four people dead. We've got to do something. Where is the President?"
WH: "Vegas baby!"

Sept. 13th- "Where's the President?!? Our property was attacked by Al Qaeda linked people, our ambassador is dead, and more demonstrations are happening in other countries!"
WH: Hungover, leave him alone dude. He threw up some platitudes in the Rose Garden yesterday, what more do you want from him?

Then the released e-mails pick up on the 14th with the White House saying, "Sorry we're late to the party. . . "
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:16 AM
 
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NoJiveMan,
I sort of agree with you. Yes Richard Nixon used the claim that he couldn't release the tapes for national security reasons and that you couldn't trust congress etc...executive privilege, etc...

However, that tactic didn't work for Richard Nixon, because the people believed that if he wouldn't release the tapes it meant that he had something to hide.

I don't know why you are defending Richard Nixon's right to have kept the tapes secret - it is for the better of the country that sun light was shone on the corruption to disinfect it.

Release the Tapes!

Release the first two days of emails!

Nixon and Obama what are they trying to hide?
Congress-persons should not be trusted with information that has to do with clandestine military, CIA or other operations in a foreign country, not even the ones which are supposed to be friendly with the United States.

Congress-persons have been known for leaking sensitive information, so have members of the U.S. Military too.

We don't know the reasons for not releasing all communications, and alleging Obama is covering up something might be a stretch. Not willingly releasing communications could be for another reason or reasons other than a cover up, but people aren't thinking outside of a box when they're doing a witch hunt.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:17 AM
 
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Why won't he release the emails from the first two days? It seems like those would be the most critical to determining what happened?
You guys are like birthers (If he would just release his BC, this would all go away. Okay, NOW if he would just release the long form BC this would all go away. Oh, he did? Well, if he would just.......). Like birthers, you decided at the beginning that this was a SCANDAL OF EPIC PROPORTIONS, and having reached your conclusion before the dust even settled, there is and never will be anything anyone could say or show you that would ever convince you otherwise.

Go on, you can admit it. We all know it anyway.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:21 AM
 
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And if they release them and they don't show what you want them to, what then? You guys are like birthers (If he would just release his BC, this would all go away. Okay, NOW if he would just release the long form BC this would all go away. Oh, he did? Well, if he would just.......). Like birthers, you decided at the beginning that this was a SCANDAL OF EPIC PROPORTIONS, and having reached your conclusion before the dust even settled, there is and never will be anything anyone could say or show you that would ever convince you otherwise.

Go on, you can admit it. We all know it anyway.
Release all the info and lets getbto the bottom of it. My God, if this info would help them, they would've released it. It clearly hurts them, not helps them. That's the ONLY reason they keep it hidden. Quit playing stupid just to defend this Administration as you hacks do over and over.

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