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Old 03-23-2013, 09:22 AM
 
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Here-Here. If my employees want coverage, I'm happy to show them where the line for Obamacare starts.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:56 AM
 
Location: USA
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Are there any Democrats who support Obamacare?

I personally support socialized healthcare over Obamacare.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Are there any Democrats who support Obamacare?

I personally support socialized healthcare over Obamacare.
I don't personally think healthcare is a right but I have no problem kicking in for socialized healthcare.
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Old 03-23-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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You can refuse the TSA.
Good point.
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The issue is that the airlines are private and you must agree to the search to enter their private property and fly.

Now occasionally you see to TSA on exercises elsewhere and then you can tell them to suck an egg.
The airlines are private, but the TSA are not. This would be an argument for allowing the airlines to provide for their own security, as they did before 09/11/2001. Then there are no constitutional issues, since they are indeed private.

We saw them at the Super Bowl, and at Greyhound Bus stations, and telling them to "go suck an egg" means you cannot fly, take a bus, or go to the Super Bowl. What next?
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Old 03-23-2013, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Good point.


The airlines are private, but the TSA are not. This would be an argument for allowing the airlines to provide for their own security, as they did before 09/11/2001. Then there are no constitutional issues, since they are indeed private.

We saw them at the Super Bowl, and at Greyhound Bus stations, and telling them to "go suck an egg" means you cannot fly, take a bus, or go to the Super Bowl. What next?
Unfortunately you can't fight for other rights and poo poo property rights.

If I had private security and could afford the TSA I'd have them too.
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Old 03-23-2013, 02:53 PM
 
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Ignored in all this is the fact that stop and frisk tactics WORK-

Stop and Frisk Saved New York

2012’s numbers prove stop and frisk works

Stop and Frisk Works So What's The Objection?

Urban minorities don't know what they want. They complain the police don't do enough to protect them or keep their communities safe but when the police are pro-active in deterring crime it is suddenly 'racist'. Make up your minds, people.

Chicago should definitely implement this then maybe there wouldn't be so many senseless murders.
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Ignored in all this is the fact that stop and frisk tactics WORK-

Stop and Frisk Saved New York

2012’s numbers prove stop and frisk works

Stop and Frisk Works So What's The Objection?

Urban minorities don't know what they want. They complain the police don't do enough to protect them or keep their communities safe but when the police are pro-active in deterring crime it is suddenly 'racist'. Make up your minds, people.

Chicago should definitely implement this then maybe there wouldn't be so many senseless murders.
Checkpoints and curfews and martial law works too...
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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Wow, this is big. Wonder why the news media are ignoring it.
They love stories on racial discrimination, don't they?


NYPD officers testify stop-and-frisk policy driven by quota system and race | World news | guardian.co.uk
Sadly, in the 1970's until the present conservatives and Democrats usually in very racial terms about fear of black male criminals created a more militarized police force in cities around the nation and passed longer mandatory sentence laws.

These policies lead to allowing the police far more latitude in harassing certain groups(young black men) of people based on their race, gender, and age.

Stop and Frisk is the outcome of such latitude. Damn shame.

The human cost is never considered.

Think if you are a young black man, who knows that just based on the color of your skin the police are allowed to stop you and pull a gun on you and that this is approved by the very city and society in which you reside?

These type of policies are not merely wrong, they are soul crushing, they separate black men from believing they can in a society that clearly hates their guts, but most don't understand.
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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If only people knew their constitutional rights.

But you lefties keep supporting governments over reaching tentacles......

"Walking while black" is now a suspicion?
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:22 PM
 
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I'm glad to see people support getting rid of the law.
Not the people who live in neighborhoods most afflicted with the kind of violence stop and frisk helps prevent.

You chuckleheads on the left want massive gun-control. Ending stop and frisk guarantees more people illegally carrying guns to protect themselves from neighborhood predators who no longer have to worry about the police.
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