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Old 03-22-2013, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You aren't seeing the big picture.

What the government does to blacks and hispanics it does to everyone else later.

So while there is a racial component it is essentially a constitutional issue because eventually the NYPD will use it on everyone.
Uh... claudhopper agrees with you, as do I.

Stop and frisk is wrong.

Unless you have changed your opinion.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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And what's great about this G, is that fellow officers are testifying against this program. Yeah, now that's bravery.
I guess late is better than never.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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Should not even be a debate, let alone a law. This is appalling. NYC , just succeed get out of my country.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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You aren't seeing the big picture.

What the government does to blacks and hispanics it does to everyone else later.

So while there is a racial component it is essentially a constitutional issue because eventually the NYPD will use it on everyone.
oh I agree with you there. It's not an us or them, it's We The People.
Some say, well blacks commit more crime, maybe, but when they are unfairly targetted, we all should speak up. We are all of one race, the human race. That's the way I see it.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Should not even be a debate, let alone a law. This is appalling. NYC , just succeed get out of my country.
It's funny that everyone LOVED Guiliani when he was the progenitor of this nonsense...
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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It's funny that everyone LOVED Guiliani when he was the progenitor of this nonsense...
Not me, I think he's a slimy crook.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It's funny that everyone LOVED Guiliani when he was the progenitor of this nonsense...
Only liberals loved him.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:21 PM
 
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Not according to Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968). The Supreme Court held that law enforcement may detain anyone who they have a reasonable suspiscion, that they can articulate, that a crime was committed, in the process of being committed, or will be committed. The law enforcement officer may also search those being detained for their own safety. No warrant is necessary. It is also known as a "Terry Stop."
Sarah, is that you? So walking in to your apartment building after school constitutes reasonable suspicion? On what planet? Did the members of the NYPD develop telekinetic abilities in the last decade that allow them to read the thoughts of people randomly walking by?
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Only liberals loved him.
???

I recall him running on the Republican ticket and getting much love from them.

Especially after 9/11...
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Sarah, is that you? So walking in to your apartment building after school constitutes reasonable suspicion? On what planet? Did the members of the NYPD develop telekinetic abilities in the last decade that allow them to read the thoughts of people randomly walking by?
I agree with you - but have to say the following.

Sarah no longer lives in Wasilla.
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