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It's irrelevant whether anybody ever died from it. You don't die from a broken arm. It's still a medical condition.
It is possible to die from a broken bone actually.
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Pregnancy is a medical condition and pregnancy is covered as well as any complications that result from pregnancy. I didn't say pregnancy wasn't a medical condition, I said the desire not to become pregnant isn't a medical condition.
Pregnancy is a medical condition, therefore contraception is preventative medical treatment.
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If you're getting the pill for some other reason then it isn't birth control and would be covered as medication for whatever condition it has been prescribed for. At that point preventing pregnancy is merely a side effect.
Why exactly shouldn't the pill be prescribed purely for contraceptive purposes? Women pay into insurance too.
I bet people like you would be the first ones to complain if women weren't able to afford birth control, got pregnant, pushed out babies they never wanted and couldn't afford and then went on public assistance.
ED is just natures way of telling you not to have sex so just don't have sex and shut up about it. But if we are gonig to allow more men to have sex that would ordinarily be able to via drugs we sure as hell better cover the back end too...so to speak...and keep all that sperm from doing something it wouldn't otherwise be doing.
Silly arguement, I don't think one should have anything to do with the other and I'm half joking...but ED isn't something anyone else but the individual should be paying for since it's not an illness, disease or injury. Way less impact on health and society than pregnancy too. Sometimes you just have to face facts, and the facts are that BC pills benifit everyone.
It is possible to die from a broken bone actually.
Don't be pedantic. A condition not being fatal doesn't mean it isn't a condition.
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Pregnancy is a medical condition, therefore contraception is preventative medical treatment.
Starvation is a medical condition. Therefore food is a preventative medical treatment. Illegitimate reasoning.
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Why exactly shouldn't the pill be prescribed purely for contraceptive purposes?
I already answered that question. Because "I don't want to get pregnant" isn't a medical condition.
Similarly, "I don't want to get an STD" doesn't make prophylactics covered for men. Nor should it.
Not wanting to face the consequences of engaging in sex, which is a voluntary activity, does not make preventing those consequences into healthcare. It is not a medical insurance company's responsibility to subsidize anybody's sex life.
Now if those pills are being used to treat an actual health problem, then by all means they should be covered by medical insurance.
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Women pay into insurance too.
Who cares if women pay into insurance too? That's not relevant in any way. It is the nature of the product or service that determines what is covered, not the gender of the person paying the premiums.
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I bet people like you would be the first ones to complain if women weren't able to afford birth control, got pregnant, pushed out babies they never wanted and couldn't afford and then went on public assistance.
It's irrelevant what "people like me" would complain about. That's an entirely different subject.
Okay, how many people a year die from ingrown hair follicles?
Picking on the example chosen doesn't change the point. Things do not have to be fatal to be medical conditions. Saying "nobody died from that" doesn't mean it isn't a medical condition.
Okay, how many people a year die from ingrown hair follicles?
Picking on the example chosen doesn't change the point. Things do not have to be fatal to be medical conditions. Saying "nobody died from that" doesn't mean it isn't a medical condition.
Ingrown hairs don't negatively effect the rest of society.
ED is just natures way of telling you not to have sex so just don't have sex and shut up about it. But if we are gonig to allow more men to have sex that would ordinarily be able to via drugs we sure as hell better cover the back end too...so to speak...and keep all that sperm from doing something it wouldn't otherwise be doing.
Silly arguement, I don't think one should have anything to do with the other and I'm half joking...but ED isn't something anyone else but the individual should be paying for since it's not an illness, disease or injury. Way less impact on health and society than pregnancy too. Sometimes you just have to face facts, and the facts are that BC pills benifit everyone.
Interesting that you should say one thing shouldn't be covered because it isn't an illness, disease, or injury and then say BC pills should be covered when they aren't an illness, disease, or injury. You kind of defeated yourself with your own argument there.
In fact, your argument means that pregnancy itself should not be covered. Only complications which might arise from it. Pregnancy is not an illness, disease, or injury.
ED is just natures way of telling you not to have sex so just don't have sex and shut up about it. But if we are gonig to allow more men to have sex that would ordinarily be able to via drugs we sure as hell better cover the back end too...so to speak...and keep all that sperm from doing something it wouldn't otherwise be doing.
Silly arguement, I don't think one should have anything to do with the other and I'm half joking...but ED isn't something anyone else but the individual should be paying for since it's not an illness, disease or injury. Way less impact on health and society than pregnancy too. Sometimes you just have to face facts, and the facts are that BC pills benifit everyone.
Cost to society for raising unplanned/unwanted children: poverty, behavior, crime, abuse, etc.
Some people obviously think it's worth the cost.
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