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Old 03-07-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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wth? I can only assume you are speaking from personal experience and your religious conversion has you feeling guilty enough over your past behavior to project onto others.

May I point out that most couples engage in sex so NOT exgaging in it is off the table. Sterilization is fine if you never want kids and if you can stomach and afford the medical procedure, which is a whole other can of worms. Everything else is fine, if a bit messy and less effective than the pill. I've never heard of anyone making a bad decision from being on BCP.

I'm real curious about the "type of men" women sleep with while on BCP though. I'm sure everyone here would love for you to expand on that.
Actually no since I have never used the pill for medical reasons. I studied a bit about it long before I became religious and found its effects aren't very good, for example increased risks of strokes.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Well if Viagra is covered, then birth control should be.
Cover neither.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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That's what PP wants but PP is a VERY DIRTY organization. They actually want women to get pregnant so they will get abortions there. They also believe in free sex and of course single motherhood. I used to give them money until I found out their dirty secrets. Instead I'd rather give it to an organization that truly does help women get low cost birth control but PP has the monopoly on that.

I'm not even against people getting birth control, I just don't think it should be paid for by taxpayers just like I don't believe anything caused by someone should be paid for like obesity. I managed not to get pregnant or get fat because of being responsible so I don't understand why others can't.
I'm not opposed to birth control pills either, other then not liking the unwanted side affects, like increased cancer risks and altering the types of men women are attracted to.

What I see here is a political motive to force companies to give away free products and services. In this case it was birth control and sterilization procedures. My question is why free birth control? Why not free insulin, answer - to buy votes.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Cover neither.
I could see covering them via the standard copay, if they are prescribed for an actual medical condition, and not just to let people engage in recreational sex.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:22 PM
 
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I'm not opposed to birth control pills either, other then not liking the unwanted side affects, like increased cancer risks and altering the types of men women are attracted to.

What I see here is a political motive to force companies to give away free products and services. In this case it was birth control and sterilization procedures. My question is why free birth control? Why not free insulin, answer - to buy votes.
Exactly, to appease the younger liberal single women. I'm not personally opposed to birth control and am still of child bearing age but I just don't think we should be paying for it, just like we shouldn't pay for Viagra or many other things. I'd rather give out free insulin because for the most part that is something people truly need (except for the obese who became diabetic by this).
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:25 PM
 
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I almost hate to bring it up but has anyone looked into how much is being spent keeping alive the preemies and babies born with conditions that would have never survived 10-20-30 years ago? Sometimes livelong care is required, mostly footed by the insurance companies. It's off this topic but since we already mentioned other conditions it's in the ball park. It's all part of the big picture but nobody ever seems to point to the costs of things like that, I guess because we can't yell "harlot" or whatever. We fight to the death to save a dime while dollars flow like water ever where else. That's a strange human trait.
No kidding. I have a relative who had a preemie, the costs are through the roof. I also have a 54 year old friend who had a stroke. He got the t-PA injection that stopped it, but had it happened 20 years ago, he would be dead. His bills were also horrific. I've always felt like catastrophic insurance was the way to go, but apparently no one else does.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Alexandria
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I rather pay for folks BC pills than folks going on the dole.

Is there is any insurance company that Hobby Lobby etc can used to customize their own plan on what they want/not covered?
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:47 PM
 
Location: California
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I could see covering them via the standard copay, if they are prescribed for an actual medical condition, and not just to let people engage in recreational sex.
Whats wrong with recreational sex. Every couple does it.
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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I'm not opposed to birth control pills either, other then not liking the unwanted side affects, like increased cancer risks and altering the types of men women are attracted to.

What I see here is a political motive to force companies to give away free products and services. In this case it was birth control and sterilization procedures. My question is why free birth control? Why not free insulin, answer - to buy votes.
When I was on the pill (well, multiple pills because I could never get on the correct one) my libido was zero. I was on BC, I had the ability to have recreation sex and wanted nothing to do with it.

So, there's also that side effect.

I say free birth control for everyone, the less unwanted children the better. How could anyone say this is a bad thing? I don't mind paying a bit more for it out of my taxes or for my insurance premiums and I donate to PP regularly. Who cares who is having 'recreational sex', how is that ANY bit my problem?
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:48 PM
 
Location: California
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...and altering the types of men women are attracted to
Am I the only one on this forum who thinks this is crazy?
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