Something for the homophobes to consider (legal, activist, soldier, Obama)
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I've been a member of this forum for three years now (as of Feb 8). While looking over the many threads in the "politics and other controversies" section, I at first was struck by the large number of threads related to gay issues, such as:
I Have The Right To Refuse Service: Restaurant Owner Turns Away Gay Rights Group After He Learned What They Advocate
They Are Abomination Unto The Lord: Baker Who Refused To Make Wedding Cake For Lesbian Couple Faces State Investigation
TX Gov Rick Perry urges Boy Scouts to continue ban on gays
Gay guy comes out to pizza guy
Gay activist admits plans to mass murder workers
Gay West Point Cadet (And If Obama Had A Son, He'd Look Like This) Escorts His Boyfriend To Winter Weekend Formal
One Baby, One Gay Dad, Two Lesbian Moms And You Wonder Why Children Are Screwed Up Today
And those are only from the first page of topics. [The only issues that seem to grab more threads are Obama-hating, gun rights ("you can't regulate me !"), and abortion ("it's murder !")]. After reading a lot of these threads through and through (which I'll not do again anytime soon), I came to the realization that certain parts of the C-D forum have become the domain of the disaffected: those (mostly older) Americans who have become estranged from societal progress, disdainful of differences, alienated from their neighbors, distrustful of evidence not in synch with their beliefs, hostile to people who question the basis of their beliefs, and fearful of the future ... all because ...
they saw their neighbors down the street (2 men) kissing each other in the driveway before going to work, or
they believe their children's third-grade teacher is gay, or
some lesbians want to buy a wedding cake like any other engaged couple, or
the Boy Scouts are considering acknowledging the gay leaders and members already on its rolls, or
a gay West Point cadet takes his date to a formal dance, or
two lesbians have a baby using the sperm of a friend,
and on, and on, and on, and on, and on .......
The rationale of all this homophobia ? Usually religious lunacy, or the "protection" of children, or "people will never accept that !", or "who do they think they are, demanding special rights ?!?", or "they're forcing their 'beliefs' down my throat", or "we've never allowed things like this !", or some combination thereof. The homophobia of the disaffected is loud and unrelenting, despite the facts that:
gay people don't "recruit" children, or molest them any more than "straight" people do
the military hasn't gone to hell in the year since DADT was thrown out the window
straight service members aren't "fragging" gay service members (as "Old Army Soldier" fears)
no one in Massachusetts has wanted to marry three people, or a goat, or any combo thereof, in the almost nine years since the state began to allow gay marriage
thousands of children have been successfully raised by gay couples without "transforming" them into homosexuals (including my own son, now 30 years old and straight and a Yale grad, whom my partner and I adopted when he was 8 years old)
tens of thousands of gay Boy Scouts (myself included) have not tarnished the image of the BSA
I've never gotten a satisfactory answer to the simple question: just what business is it of yours who marries whom ? or who sleeps with whom ? (as long as both are consenting adults). Don't say the bible, because I don't share your beliefs, and it's not the law of this country. Don't say "protection of the children", because the overwhelming view among researchers and professionals who work in the area of child abuse and protection is that homosexuals do not pose any special threat to children. Don't say "special rights" because gay people only want rights that everyone else already has. Don't say "we've never done this" because this isn't the 50s and it's not my fault you're a Stepford wife.
No ... there is no valid answer. It's none of your f****n business. What encourages me: (1) the large number of C-D members who call out the homophobes and expose their flawed arguments and fears, and (2) the inexorable progress of gay rights in this country and other countries. I won't detail that progress, because others have done so on this forum, but thanks mainly to the younger people in this country, the right of gay people to marry who they choose is marching on, and, I predict, will be validated by the Supreme Court. The time will come when it will be legal in every jurisdiction. The train has left the station and will not be turning back.
So to the homophobes among us, I say: you've lost. You can rant about what used to be, or what ills will occur, and how horrible everything will be, but no one believes you, and you're wrong anyway. Be prepared to be unhappy until you accept the inevitable.
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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While it's great to see the homophobic types fade from view, unfortunately there are always gonna be some folks who have a need for someone else they can feel ''superior to''. And for a long time that's actually been the unofficial ''job'' of gays and blacks. But just like the hatred for muslims replaced the fear of ''commies'' after the cold war, we all need to be careful to watch for the next great scapegoats. And BTW, IMHO ''lib-ruls'' are not ''immune'' either (political correctness being just one example)!
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