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Old 01-24-2013, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Should this bill pass, offenders would face maximum punishments of one year in prison, a $6,250 fine or both. According to the CDC, there are around 476,000 smokers in Oregon who would become criminals under this law if they continued to smoke. As a person who is addicted to nicotine, I can tell you that I would most likely violate this law due to my addiction. Heroin is arguably less addictive than nicotine. It is an incredibly difficult habit to break, and as such, the use of violence to stop addictive behavior will not work.

A ban on cigarettes would also cost the state some tax revenue. Presently the state of Oregon has a cigarette tax of $1.18 per pack, 2009 data says that 47.9 packs per citizen were sold, which works out to roughly $214,783,600 in tax revenue for the state for that year (assuming the tax rate didn’t change). Now an argument could be made that the state will save more in terms of health care costs than it would lose in the treatment of tobacco-related diseases, but that’s only if you fail to include the cost of enforcing this law and assume everyone would stop smoking. As every other drug that has been banned shows us, people will not stop smoking, and the criminal activity involving cigarettes would be enormous. Locking up a single person for a year costs the state between $40,000 to $50,000.
Oregon Proposes Ridiculous Law to Make Cigarettes Illegal Unless Prescribed By a Doctor
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:58 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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I don't think this bill has much of a shot. The trend is going in the other direction (legalization of Marijuana). Prohibition of such things don't work. Some just don't learn.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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So who's the one proposing this? How many people? This article doesn't give much information at all.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The article was a bit over the top, and something like this won't pass in Oregon, but I do hope they make it easier for people to get treatment for cigarette addiction and I would support an increase in cigarette tax to pay for it. The less people smoking tobacco the better it is for everyone.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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The article was a bit over the top, and something like this won't pass in Oregon, but I do hope they make it easier for people to get treatment for cigarette addiction and I would support an increase in cigarette tax to pay for it. The less people smoking tobacco the better it is for everyone.
So I as a citizen who smokes should have to pay an extra tax so that people who don't want to smoke can get treatment for it?

You know what? I support healthy eating habits along with a multi-fiber supplement everyday that helps to clean and regulate a persons bowels, something like metamucil works wonders as a daily addage.

I don't think you should be required to do any of this, but I would support a tax on all the extra toilet paper you'll use to wipe your ....... and get it clean


Make sense? Not really? Didn't think so.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:19 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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All of these measures are done because no one has the nerve to just straight up OUTLAW cigarettes.

Not the tobacco they're made from...
just the manufactured, advertized, packaged, adulterated, industrial product.

Wanna smoke? OK. Buy a hand (or a tin) and roll your own.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:23 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Well.... I'm glad I don't live in Oregon. But yes, OP this is pretty stupid! Unfortunately there will actually be people who support this law.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Speaking of stupid laws in Oregon, I didn't know it was illegal to pump your own gas in Oregon. LOL! I wonder if they still push their own shopping carts?
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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And this is "liberalism"? Sounds like liberals exercising some staunch "conservatism". Hence, more evidence to point toward us silly Americans just like our labels, regardless of our understanding of them.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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So who's the one proposing this? How many people? This article doesn't give much information at all.
It's not the State of Oregon proposing this, it's one state representative.

Bill proposed in Oregon would make cigarettes prescription-only - KPTV - FOX 12

It's the same guy who wants to hold a hearing into the University of Oregon's football coach hiring process.

State legislator Mitch Greenlick will request a hearing into Oregon's football hiring process | OregonLive.com

Once again, there's a large difference between Oregon proposing to ban cigarettes--and one man in Oregon proposing to ban cigarettes. People like to complain about the weak level of reporting in the mainstream media, but unfortunately the level of journalism in the non-mainstream media and blogosphere is just as bad.
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