Long-time conservative Republican gun owner and NRA member, Joe Scarborough, has changed his mind... and so can you

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by dman72

As you can see from the dozens of different posts on this site, there is no getting through to the gun worshipping fetishists. They are addicted to the power they feel from these weapons the same way an addict is to heroin. They have every argument lined up when you try to discuss rationally with them, and when you start talking about legislation, they will start getting violent...this situation will get worse before it gets better.

You've already proven that you don't know squat about guns and gun ownership on the previous threads. You also admitted that you have no desire to educate yourself. So why should we take your opinion for anything other than the tripe that it is? Once you know what gun ownership actually means for most people, then get back to us. Your wild imagination is nothing but fuel for the timid, emotionally weak liberals that you cohort with. Many of which are right here on this forum. A Kumbayah Of Willful Ignorance. Just awesome!

[Redshadowz]

Originally Posted by bobtn

I agree, apparently he loves his children, more than his guns (unlike the wing nut right wing). How radical!

Originally Posted by EdwardA

So basically he is a normal functioning human being.

You are really missing the point. If you listen to what Joe is saying, he is complaining about violent video games, violent movies, and guns.

If given more time to explain his position, he might also be complaining about violent rape music, or even rock music. What he is effectively arguing for, is not only gun control, but censorship.


What he is saying is, he loves his kids and he wants to protect them from anything bad happening to them. Which is fine. But his line of thinking, would lead down a road of total government control of anything and everything that Joe might consider harmful to his kids.

He has changed his view on guns, but what happens if a madman goes into a class of six-year olds with a knife and starts stabbing all of them? I mean, a person could probably kill a lot of little kids with a knife. Maybe we should ban knives? Or at least, any knife over a certain size.


I'm sure Joe supports keeping drugs illegal, because they might harm his kids. One of the leading causes of deaths for children, is drowning. Maybe we should ban swimming pools, boats, and going to the lake. That would save a lot more kids a year than guns. Maybe we should ban cars, or at least any car that doesn't meet a certain safety level.

Maybe we should put up checkpoints all over major cities, to look for criminals, drugs, guns, or even people under the influence of anything. I mean, think about how much safer we would be if there were checkpoints every couple miles all over the cities.



My point is, what Joe is espousing, isn't just the end of the second amendment. He is arguing for the end of the first amendment as well. He basically is taking the logical path of justifying a police state, where we have no rights. All in the name of "security".


Would you trade freedom for security?

[Ferd]

Joe has been drinking too much MSNBC wacky juice.

he has not been one of us for a very long time.

[JamesGTAIV]

Money and death threats have always been a pretty effective lobbying tool.

I'm not changing my mind. I hope you change yours to supporting liberty over government theft.