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Old 06-26-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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I am not telling you how to live your life, I am simply saying I do not wish to support something financially if I consider immoral. It makes me a partaker in immorality. Same goes with abortion. I do NOT want to support it financially.

However, this ruling will force every taxpayer to support it financially, and that is a problem.
Perhaps my religion finds it immoral to financially provide medical care to seniors or to tax people based on their relationship status or or deny access to BC or to support dictatorships or war or subsidize farmers or manipulate the economy. Etc, etc, etc...

Your religion has no more say than mine does... even if I made mine up 10 minutes ago.

 
Old 06-26-2013, 09:56 AM
 
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I am not telling you how to live your life, I am simply saying I do not wish to support something financially if I consider immoral. It makes me a partaker in immorality. Same goes with abortion. I do NOT want to support it financially.

However, this ruling will force every taxpayer to support it financially, and that is a problem.
Your not
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I do not wish to financially support YOUR marriage, but I don't get a choice to opt out.
And neither are you.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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And I'm planning my wedding!
I am so glad the Supreme Court has ruled that the tax on heterosexuals, the marriage penalty provisions of the income tax code, is unconstitutional--and that it may now also be applied to married same-sex couples.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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I did, but it still leave it open. Now there is precedent, since the portion of DOMA that was found unconstitutional means that couples can now challenge any laws in their states that restrict same sex marriages.

Constitutional amendments in states and laws that were created to stop Same Sex marriages in those states that have such laws, can now be challenged.
Exactly, and all of that will take YEARS...

I suppose even longer than people suspect because if you live in one of those states, it will be far easier to travel to another state to get married, then file a Supreme Court challenge to the law.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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I do not wish to financially support YOUR marriage, but I don't get a choice to opt out.

Really? Here's what you just said in another thread:

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I don't work outside the home, so I have no income.
Sounds like you've got your wish.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 09:59 AM
 
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Exactly, and all of that will take YEARS...
so? at least its now going to happen.

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I suppose even longer than people suspect because if you live in one of those states, it will be far easier to travel to another state to get married, then file a Supreme Court challenge to the law.
and they travel back to their state because that is where they live, and then file a court case against the their home state because their LEGALLY valid marriage is not recognized.

It can happen sooner than you think.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 09:59 AM
 
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I am so glad the Supreme Court has ruled that the tax on heterosexuals, the marriage penalty provisions of the income tax code, is unconstitutional--and that it may now also be applied to married same-sex couples.
Not only that, the divorce lawyers will love it.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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The meanings of words change with history. Fittingly, the word 'gay' used to just mean 'happy.'

Shall the state change the meaning of words (see "1984")?
 
Old 06-26-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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so? at least its now going to happen.
Never said otherwise, I started by saying its not over..
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and they travel back to their state because that is where they live, and then file a court case against the their home state because their LEGALLY valid marriage is not recognized.

It can happen sooner than you think.
But states not recognizing marriages isnt the same as states allowing it to take place.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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How does that fact that two men are able to marry in any way effect your religious freedom? The Supreme Court did not rule that you can't go to any church of your choosing, nor did it invalidate marriage between a man and a woman.
The ruling had nothing to do with who you can marry, and who can't marry, and everything to do with opening the federal money taps to people who live in gay marriage.
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