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The Catholic Church is in a real mess. They shifted to the Left some fifty years ago and have lost millions of loyal followers. The scandals with the gays priests have nearly destroyed the Church. Now they are just chasing Hispanics think the demographics will save them, but Hispanics demand more out of the church than they put into it.
Ok, so call it a civil union. I don't have a problem with that. But, keep the integrity of the term marriage intact. It should mean what it has meant for thousands of years...a union between a man and a woman.
No church has any business sticking its nose in secular matters such as civil marriage.
Especially a church that played hopscotch and chess with its priests rather than acknowledging that they were molesting young boys and putting a stop to it. Why the Church thinks it can talk about morality after ruining so many lives with the immorality of its own priests remains a mystery.
Last edited by DewDropInn; 11-17-2012 at 05:36 PM..
Reason: brevity
"Nobody follows the Catholic Church's rules, not even their own leaders. Most American Catholics reject Rome's stance on gays, and in light of all the corruption and sexual scandals in the Church, it has forever lost the ability to claim the moral high ground.[/quote]
Speak for yourself!! Don't speak for all Catholics!!
No church has any business sticking its nose in secular matters such as civil marriage.
Signed,
A Catholic
Churches most certainly do have business sticking their noses into the issue of marriage. Church leaders are usually the ones officiating these covenants. They don't want to be put in the position of being forced to officiate homosexual unions, or have their tax exemption taken away. Or, to be charged with "hate speech" for daring to say what the Bible clearly states about homosexual behavior. This is not too far away, or far-fetched, is happening in Europe already.
Yes, homosexuals should have the freedom to form a union and get benefits in our pluralistic society. But, absolutely the church ( all denominations which still uphold the Bible ) has a right and responsibility to preserve the sanctity of marriage as we understand it. Churches should never be forced to participate in or condone a lifestyle just because the state or society at large decides to sanction it.
Especially a church that played hopscotch and chess with its priests rather than acknowledging that they were molesting young boys and putting a stop to it. Why the Church thinks it can talk about morality after ruining so many lives remains a mystery.
What part of allowing the molestation of numerous children by priests, and covering it up, is moral?
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Churches most certainly do have business sticking their noses into the issue of marriage. Church leaders are usually the ones officiating these covenants. They don't want to be put in the position of being forced to officiate homosexual unions, or have their tax exemption taken away.
In order to be married, one has to obtain a marriage license from a government office. A religious marriage is completely optional. No church is going to be made to marry gay couples.
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Or, to be charged with "hate speech" for daring to say what the Bible clearly states about homosexual behavior. This is not too far away, or far-fetched, is happening in Europe already.
Say what you like and do what you like in your church. But stop forcing your religious idea of marriage onto those who believe otherwise.
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Originally Posted by CAHomeschoolMom
Yes, homosexuals should have the freedom to form a union and get benefits in our pluralistic society. But, absolutely the church ( all denominations which still uphold the Bible ) has a right and responsibility to preserve the sanctity of marriage as we understand it. Churches should never be forced to participate in or condone a lifestyle just because the state or society at large decides to sanction it.
You are totally conflating two very different things: civil marriage and religious marriage.
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