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Old 09-10-2012, 02:21 PM
 
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Oh lawd...don't flatter yourself...smh.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:22 PM
 
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This is just like my sister...bless her heart. She starts ranting and raving about Obama and this and that he didnt/did do...she get all hyperventilated, dilated pupils and just down right scary...light a crazy person...I just look at her like the loon she is getting to be...poor thing.
The worse part is her friends act the same way!!
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:24 PM
 
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I don't read it as that. It's just a tongue in cheek argument by the OP that you shouldn't have a President allowed to kill US citizens with no judicial oversight, let alone no legislative oversight.
Well it's a bit more complicated than the president. Keep in mind all the military and intelligence advisement and information that goes into making such decision.

Let's just say that the president isn't the only one who approves of such decision.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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I don't read it as that. It's just a tongue in cheek argument by the OP that you shouldn't have a President allowed to kill US citizens with no judicial oversight, let alone no legislative oversight.
There are more level-headed ways of critizing the President for this. yes, it's Unconstitutional. But so was the Patriot Act, but you didn't see the neocons complaining about that.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:29 PM
 
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There are more level-headed ways of critizing the President for this. yes, it's Unconstitutional. But so was the Patriot Act, but you didn't see the neocons complaining about that.
Well I'm not sure if I'd be labeled a neo-con, but I've been complaining about the patriot act and the handling of 9/11 since the day it happened.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:32 PM
 
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Well it's a bit more complicated than the president. Keep in mind all the military and intelligence advisement and information that goes into making such decision.

Let's just say that the president isn't the only one who approves of such decision.
He's absolutely the one. You have no idea of any process involved. They even deny they have a kill list.

This is 100% controlled by the President.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:35 PM
 
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Millions in the USSR thought they were too unimportant to be put in the gulags.
And you think that would happen here, might want to study the differences in situations before trying to compare them.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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He's absolutely the one. You have no idea of any process involved. They even deny they have a kill list.

This is 100% controlled by the President.
No I don't.

However, unless the president personally kills the people on the list, there are people out there who are just following orders.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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But crazy people are still voters, and we must attack their every point and drill the logic through them, hoping one day they will "wake up" and use their head.
I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:47 PM
 
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Well it looks like he is a bit wishy-washy with some of the values here.

But crazy people are still voters, and we must attack their every point and drill the logic through them, hoping one day they will "wake up" and use their head.
A noble aspiration, but incredibly difficult. As my parents said, once someone has wrapped themselves inside a strong political belief, they often refuse to listen to alternative sources.
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