This is how dumb the right thinks you are. Seriously. (legal, dollar)
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IMO, it is time for the republican governor, Scott Walker, to put his man pants on and do what he promised for WI. Create 250K jobs. This is his territory. If the right wingers want to make this an issue, Walker is their target.
But, GE is still expanding it's domestic light bulb manufacturing and still moving jobs home from overseas:
The irony of you using the lightbulb industry as an example, considering GE used fascism to shut down a lot of their competitors. Ooh and the best part, they got government bailouts to do it..
IMO, it is time for the republican governor, Scott Walker, to put his man pants on and do what he promised for WI. Create 250K jobs. This is his territory. If the right wingers want to make this an issue, Walker is their target.
Let's see.
Walker takes office Jan. 3rd, 2011.
Wisconsin Employment:
2011 Jan - 2,785,763
2012 Jun - 2,883,335
That's 97,572 jobs or an average of 5,420 a month.
President Obama takes Office Jan. 20th, 2009.
2009 Jan - 142,187,000
2012 Jun - 142,415,000
That's 228,000 jobs for the entire country or an average of 5,428 jobs a month.
You didn't click on the links I provided, did you? GE is hiring in Waukesha right now.
And, yes, it would be nice if we could keep every job in America, but that's neither practical, logical or possible. Some will be lost and some won't come back.
But, GE is still expanding it's domestic light bulb manufacturing and still moving jobs home from overseas:
In any case, this thread isn't about GE. It's about how the right thinks you're dumb enough to fall for any old lie told about Obama just because....well...just because people apparently are! They've been so successful at making people afraid of Obama that their followers are primed to believe anything. Even worse, as we can see right here on these boards, even when the truth is revealed, that doesn't stop the the frightened weenies from continuing to believe the lie!
"And the claim of credit for the Africa anecdote is just the latest ruse by Eisenstadt, who turns out to be a very elaborate hoax that has been going on for months. MSNBC, which quickly corrected the mistake, has plenty of company in being taken in by an Eisenstadt hoax, including The New Republic and The Los Angeles Times."
The text book definition of dumb features the legislators who approved obamacare legislation without reading it, the electorate they represent for additionally tolerating the speakers words that admitted no one knew what was in the bill by sayin, 'we have to pass it to find out what's in it".
Ah, have a little compassion here, guys. Look who they have as their candidate, a guy who has to apologize every time he opens his mouth. Faux outrage is all they've got.
Now which candidate are you talking about again ?? It seems they both have the foot in mouth problem.
The text book definition of dumb features the legislators who approved obamacare legislation without reading it, the electorate they represent for additionally tolerating the speakers words that admitted no one knew what was in the bill by sayin, 'we have to pass it to find out what's in it".
How about legislatures that want to repeal it, without anything to replace it, knowing that it will cost more money to repeal it, and Obamacare will actually save the tax payer money?
How about legislatures that want to repeal it, without anything to replace it, knowing that it will cost more money to repeal it, and Obamacare will actually save the tax payer money?
Idiots, all the way around.
How can you look at this:
and come to the conclusion that it's going to cost the tax payers less?
President Obama's health care overhaul will reduce rather than increase the nation's huge federal deficits over the next decade, Congress' nonpartisan budget scorekeepers said Tuesday. Republicans have insisted that Obamacare will raise deficits -- by trillions, claims Mitt Romney -- but the Congressional Budget Office disagreed with that assessment. The CBO estimated that Republican legislation to repeal the overhaul, passed recently by the House, would increase the deficit by $109 billion from 2013 to 2022. "Repealing the [law] will lead to an increase in budget deficits over the coming decade, though a smaller one than previously reported," budget office director Douglas Elmendorf said in a letter to House Speaker John Boehner (R).
Wheres your link? How am I supposed to just believe a random graph of anything? CBO's report is there for everyone to see. Wheres yours?
President Obama's health care overhaul will reduce rather than increase the nation's huge federal deficits over the next decade, Congress' nonpartisan budget scorekeepers said Tuesday. Republicans have insisted that Obamacare will raise deficits -- by trillions, claims Mitt Romney -- but the Congressional Budget Office disagreed with that assessment. The CBO estimated that Republican legislation to repeal the overhaul, passed recently by the House, would increase the deficit by $109 billion from 2013 to 2022. "Repealing the [law] will lead to an increase in budget deficits over the coming decade, though a smaller one than previously reported," budget office director Douglas Elmendorf said in a letter to House Speaker John Boehner (R).
Wheres your link? How am I supposed to just believe a random graph of anything? CBO's report is there for everyone to see. Wheres yours?
It's from the CBO which if you looked at the graph you could plainly see.
Here's some more from the CBO:
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Another example of concern about budget conventions involves the Hospital Insurance trust fund, which covers Medicare Part A. The legislation will improve the cash flow in that trust fund by hundreds of billions of dollars over the next decade. Higher balances in the fund will give the government legal authority to pay Medicare benefits longer, but most of the money will pay for new programs rather than reduce future budget deficits and therefore will not enhance the government’s economic ability to pay Medicare benefits in future years.
The calculations of longer-term effects are based on the assumption that the provisions
of PPACA and the Reconciliation Act will remain unchanged throughout the
next two decades. However, those laws put into effect a number of policies that may
be difficult to sustain over a long period of time.
Specifically, last year’s legislation restrains the rate of increase in payment rates for
many providers of Medicare services to less than the expected rate of increase in the
cost of the providers’ inputs, in expectation of ongoing productivity improvements in
the delivery of health care. If providers do not improve their productivity sufficiently
rapidly to offset the reductions in payment rates, those rates will fall over time relative
to the cost of providing services. By holding the rate of increase in payment rates
below what would have prevailed under prior law, PPACA will generate savings that
are projected to increase considerably during the next 10 years and in the decade
beyond that. However, it is unclear the extent to which providers will achieve greater
efficiencies in the delivery of health care and the extent to which cost pressures will
instead reduce access to care or diminish the quality of care (relative to the situation
under prior law) outcomes that might increase pressure on the Congress to increase
payments to providers. It is also unclear whether and how the Congress would
respond to such pressure if it arose and what effects the response would have on total
federal health care spending, revenues, and deficits.
Last year’s legislation will restrain the increases in Medicare payment rates for many
providers other than physicians. At the same time, the so-called sustainable growth
rate mechanism—which has been in effect since 1997—is projected to cause Medicare’s
payment rates for physicians’ services to be reduced sharply during the next few
years. That mechanism has frequently been modified (either through legislation or
administrative action) to avoid an abrupt and large reduction in those payment rates
that might have reduced Medicare beneficiaries’ access to physicians’ services.
On the basis of the cuts in payment rates under PPACA and the Reconciliation Act,
along with the effects of the sustainable growth rate mechanism, CBO projects that
Medicare spending per beneficiary (adjusted for inflation) will increase at an average
annual rate of less than 2 percent during the next two decades—compared with the
rate of roughly 4 percent that has occurred over the past two decades (a figure that
excludes the effect of establishing the Medicare prescription drug benefit).
Another provision that may be difficult to sustain will slow the growth of federal subsidies
for health insurance purchased through the insurance exchanges. For enrollees
who receive subsidies, the amount they will have to pay depends primarily on a formula
that determines what share of their income they have to contribute to enroll in a
relatively low cost plan (with the subsidy covering the difference between that contribution
and the total premiums for that plan). Initially, the percentages of income that
enrollees must pay are indexed so that the subsidies will cover roughly the same share
of the total premiums over time. After 2018, however, an additional indexing factor
will probably apply; if so, the shares of income that enrollees have to pay will increase
more rapidly, and the shares of the premiums that the subsidies cover will decline.25
Whether a widening gap between subsidies and premiums will increase pressure on
the Congress to adjust the subsidy schedule and how the Congress might respond are
uncertain.
If those provisions and others will subsequently be modified or implemented incompletely
without offsetting changes in federal policies, then the effects that PPACA and
the Reconciliation Act have on federal spending, revenues, and deficits could be quite
different from the ones that CBO estimated.
You see, all those cost savings that this administration and the congress critters have foisted upon you are all based on lies and standards which the congress and president have never had the courage to go through with based on political pressures so to assume that they will suddenly become austere in their future law making is simply amazing and very short sighted.
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