Female Farmers in Nepal Fear Global Warming

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

Yeah, consuming fossil fuels, polluting the air with millions of cars spewing exhaust and coal-fired plants clouding the air (especially in China), mowing down tropical forests, none of that has anything to do with it. Everyone go home and relax, don't worry, be happy.

The US has reduced emissions by 67% since 1980, the acreage of forest in he US stabilized 100 years ago. How you control the pollution and other environmental issues in China, India, Brazil is problematic.

The article doesn't cover even the half of it. As glaciers in Tibet shrink, India and China are going to be SOL for water. The headwaters of the Ganges, the Brahmaputra, the Mekong, and the Yangtze Rivers are in Tibet, to name just three rivers that depend on glacial melt from there. Glaciers are shrinking everywhere, including Glacier National Park in the US.

One of the theories is pollution is the cause but particulate pollution, the soot ends up on the glaciers accelerating the melting. This would be a local issue if that's the cause. Glaciers are not shrinking everywhere some are growing even in the Himalayas. It's important to find out why some are shrinking and others are growing.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by thecoalman

The US has reduced emissions by 67% since 1980, the acreage of forest in he US stabilized 100 years ago. How you control the pollution and other environmental issues in China, India, Brazil is problematic.

One of the theories is pollution is the cause but particulate pollution, the soot ends up on the glaciers accelerating the melting. This would be a local issue if that's the cause. Glaciers are not shrinking everywhere some are growing even in the Himalayas. It's important to find out why some are shrinking and others are growing.

I haven't heard of any growing anywhere, not in Alaska, not anywhere. All I've heard is that part of the Antarctic ice is getting thicker, while other ice there is melting and calving at an accelerated rate.

Right about the particulate matter, but that must be fairly common world-wide.
Austria and Switzerland have ended up with ski resorts stranded on bare ground as the snow line has receded too far away for the resorts to be of any use. There's not much snow left on Kilimanjaro. There's some worry about the Greenland icesheet melting, which could actually cause a sudden shift to much colder weather temporarily as it affects currents in the Atlantic. There's no question there's a gradual warming trend. Southern flora and fauna are moving north. The debate is about whether this is a natural cycle or one created by man.

It's tropical forest that's being eliminated at an alarming rate, not temperate forest so much.

[thecoalman]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

I haven't heard of any growing anywhere, not in Alaska, not anywhere.

Took a little while to find a source you might accept since these types of things are rarely reported in the liberal biased media but here you go:

Melt Or Grow? Fate Of Himalayan Glaciers Unknown : NPR

Just a few years ago, it seemed that the Himalayas were on the brink of disaster. The U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) made alarming claims about the fate of all that ice. You can almost see Jeffrey Kargel at the University of Arizona cringe as he describes it.


"One page had the most egregious errors you could imagine, just one after another, including the claim that the glaciers would disappear by 2035," he says.


But the claim was dead wrong. The error put a lot of egg on the face of the IPCC. But it also sent glacier scientists scrambling. They knew very little about the state and the fate of those glaciers, even the basics.


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"There, the glaciers — at least during the last 10 years — are gaining mass," Bolch says, "while in most of the other regions in the Himalaya, they are losing mass."

Right about the particulate matter, but that must be fairly common world-wide.

Ironically dumping soot onto Antarctica was one of the solutions put forth during the ice age scare in the 70's.

There's no question there's a gradual warming trend. Southern flora and fauna are moving north. The debate is about whether this is a natural cycle or one created by man.

Yes I'd agree.

It's tropical forest that's being eliminated at an alarming rate, not temperate forest so much.

Brazils economy is on the march, they need wood to build things. You know there is lot of restrictions of what type of wood can be brought into this country? I know many of the music instrument makers find it hard to get their hands on the wood they want.

[totsuka]

It's just a way to steal from the wealthy countries and give to the poor countries, after taking a "taste" for the middle man. It's all a huge scam created by the same people that thought Russia was an economic success but just needed more time and Stalin was misunderstood.