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Old 05-21-2012, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Yeah, I mean why elected a tomato when you can elect a tomato.
The notion that Republicans and Democrats are the same may have been more true several decades ago. Today, they are night and day.

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The Cult That Is Destroying America
Think about what’s happening right now. We have a crisis in which the right is making insane demands, while the president and Democrats in Congress are bending over backward to be accommodating — offering plans that are all spending cuts and no taxes, plans that are far to the right of public opinion.

So what do most news reports say? They portray it as a situation in which both sides are equally partisan, equally intransigent — because news reports always do that. And we have influential pundits calling out for a new centrist party, a new centrist president, to get us away from the evils of partisanship.

The reality, of course, is that we already have a centrist president — actually a moderate conservative president. Once again, health reform — his only major change to government — was modeled on Republican plans, indeed plans coming from the Heritage Foundation. And everything else — including the wrongheaded emphasis on austerity in the face of high unemployment — is according to the conservative playbook.

What all this means is that there is no penalty for extremism; no way for most voters, who get their information on the fly rather than doing careful study of the issues, to understand what’s really going on.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:17 PM
 
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MTA brilliant comparison. We are working to rid New Hampshire's legislature of these mythic creatures as well.
Hard to do when your legislature is the 3rd largest elected legislature in the world.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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MTA brilliant comparison. We are working to rid New Hampshire's legislature of these mythic creatures as well.
Thanks for the complement.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Police State
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Your governor is the problem. This is the same tool who made getting the Vikings a new stadium with public money his top priority.
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Old 05-21-2012, 01:28 PM
 
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MTA brilliant comparison. We are working to rid New Hampshire's legislature of these mythic creatures as well.

How did that work out for ya at the midterms greg? Lets see , ya were able to hang on to the gov mansion and lost the other 3 branches.

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Old 05-21-2012, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Minnesota has a long history of electing whacks, e.g. Jesse Ventura, Michelle Bachman and many others, along with a lot of good people like Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale.
How did you miss Paul Wellstone? of course, one of the good ones.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:11 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Responsible Conservatives and unicorns. One is a non-existent mythical creature. The other is a four-legged animal with a spiraling horn.

What example of this responsible Conservative have we ever seen? Ronald Reagan -- who tripled the debt? Maybe GWB who is the poster child for using taxpayer money and transferring it to his friends.

Find me one responsible Progressive! Just one


Conservatives like:
Ron Paul
Lamar Smith
Mike Lee
Paul Ryan
Rand Paul


What is
Conservative about Big Central Governments..... Reagan and Bush were for big and growing Government control, with social engineering.

Both moderates at best, but totally Conservative... NO WAY.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Minnesotans, bring back a DFL Legislature | StarTribune.com


They are the party of hypocrisy and conflict. They sell fear and hatred to get votes. That is why they will be voted out in Minnesota. I strongly encourage you to vote them out everywhere you vote.
Thw biggest "mistake" that needs to be voted out in Minnesota is Al Franken
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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Minnesotans, bring back a DFL Legislature | StarTribune.com

Minnesota had a GOP controlled House for the last few years for the first time in a long time, maybe ever. What a disaster it has been. They have cost us millions of dollars with their forced shut down of the state, only to agree to a budget that saved hardly any money and didn't come close to making up for what the shut down cost. This is only one example of their immaturity and senseless, disruptive behavior.

The problem with Republicans is that they deal in ideology and not in reality. Tell a republican that children are not getting a decent breakfast before school and it is harming their ability to learn and their chance of a future in society.

The Republican will tell you every time that it's not society's place to feed these children. They don't care about the reality of the child at all. The reality is the child did not ask to be brought into this world but he does exist. He needs basic care.

I care more about what kind of a citizen he is going to be someday and less about who's responsibility it is to care for him. Republicans sway voters with their anti-abortion rhetoric, but then turn around and try to sabotage any kind of help for parents on the ropes financially.

They are the party of hypocrisy and conflict. They sell fear and hatred to get votes. That is why they will be voted out in Minnesota. I strongly encourage you to vote them out everywhere you vote.
Evidently someone pulled you finger.
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Old 05-21-2012, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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How did you miss Paul Wellstone? of course, one of the good ones.
Perhaps. However, when he died, just 11 days before the election of 2002, his supporters urged out of state students at St. Olaf College, where my daughter was, to register in MN (same day) and vote for Wellstone so his successor could be hand appointed by the governor. The whole thing seemed sketchy to me. She voted absentee here in CO.
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