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You have far, far too much faith in "witnesses'" accounts, and too little understanding of other types of evidence, like physical evidence and forensics analyses. Btw, if Zimmerman rolled Trayvon "off of him" after the shooting, why was there no blood on Zimmerman's clothes when he entered the police station shortly .
Zimmerman said that he rolled Trayvon off of him? This man is not only not telling the truth but he is dumb.
Zimmerman said that he rolled Trayvon off of him? This man is not only not telling the truth but he is dumb.
I don't know that Zimmerman said that. I think the poster RCCCB said that Zimmerman said that. That's why I put it in quotes.....responding to the other poster RCCCB.
I don't know that Zimmerman said that. I think the poster RCCCB said that Zimmerman said that. That's why I put it in quotes.....responding to the other poster RCCCB.
Yeah, maybe rolled off of him was not the best term, but witnesses after the shooting said Zimmerman kind of moved him away, rolled him off is either the impression I got or what I read from a while ago; and being he was half knocked out and thought Trayvon could have a gun, he never tried to do CPR (not that I know he was trained for it).
Yeah, maybe rolled off of him was not the best term, but witnesses after the shooting said Zimmerman kind of moved him away, rolled him off is either the impression I got or what I read from a while ago; and being he was half knocked out and thought Trayvon could have a gun, he never tried to do CPR (not that I know he was trained for it).
Oh great, where is the link to the whole transcript you are reading from?
Thanks!
This is from CNN along with comments. So you need to separate the comments from the actual testimony. Let me know if I missed something. I only was reading the actual testimony, since I can't use my memory to prove what was or wasn't said. I remember when he (the investigator) said there was no evidence showing who started the fight, but I don't remember the investigator saying Zimmerman was not in pursuit of Martin as you claim. I also don't believe that the prosecution wanted to reveal everything during a bond hearing, which is only to determine bail. After all, most people get bail unless they're considered to be flight risks or dangerous.
Exactly! Although this has nothing to do with eyewitness testimony, I worked in retail for several years. Once a sales associate who was 5'4" with dark brown hair helped a man find a chair. He came back a week later and insisted I was the woman who assisted him. She walked out of the back room and said "Hello, how are you today?" He looked at her and said, "That's the lady." I'm 5'6" (and shrinking) and have platinum blonde hair. Go figure.
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There's no "proof" of this either, just GZ's statement...unless of course you were there and saw GZ walking back to his truck and saw TM confront and attack him....
Its safe to say that if he wasnt on the way to his truck the responding police knew that & it meant nothing.
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Do you really?!? Why do we even need another hearing or a possible jury trial if you have all the answers? Or did you just make that one up...
We need a trial because of radical racial groups in our country who think no white person, even if he aint white, will ever be justified killing a black man.
Its safe to say that if he wasnt on the way to his truck the responding police knew that & it meant nothing.
We need a trial because of radical racial groups in our country who think no white person, even if he aint white, will ever be justified killing a black man.
Although this certainly has become a big political story, I doubt if that's the reason the victim's parents desperately looked for help when they couldn't get answers to why their unarmed teenager was shot to death while taking a walk. I don't care if he was White with blue eyes, was a cub scout leader and had a scholarship to Harvard. Justice is supposed to be blind. That also means color blind.
Perhaps Trayvon "profiled" Zimmerman and saw this gun-totin' wannabe and Trayvon realized his only chance of survival was to react in a PROactive manner.
"Situational awareness" - he was being followed by someone he didn't know and who may or may not have shown his gun and Trayvon did what he felt he had to do to defend himself.
If so he was the agressor & the shot justified. Theres a difference between being aware & assaulting people. If Trayvon was aware, and I think he was. He was aware that Zimmerman was on the phone, likely to the police, he was aware that Zimmerman was likely a concerned citizen & he thought he was aware he could teach him a lesson. Or maybe he was aware of nothing & just decided to attack. One also has to wonder why a person being stalked at night didnt call the police himself....
Okay, but who tucked his shirt in so neatly? Remember when he got out of the police car in handcuffs and his jacket was unzipped and his shirt was neatly tucked into his pants? Did the friendly officer get into the back of his car to tuck Zimmerman's shirt into his pants? Did Zimmerman wash his hands after the fight? I mean, I saw no blood on his hands, but he claims he had a broken nose and bloody head. Isn't it only natural to put your hand on your head or over your nose and yell "outch?" Maybe the police or EMT cleaned him up, but I hope they took notes when they did.
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Why do we even need another hearing or a possible jury trial if you have all the answers? Or did you just make that one up...
Did Zimmerman wash his hands after the fight? I mean, I saw no blood on his hands, but he claims he had a broken nose and bloody head. Isn't it only natural to put your hand on your head or over your nose and yell "outch?" Maybe the police or EMT cleaned him up, but I hope they took notes when they did.