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Old 04-11-2012, 02:01 PM
 
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I do not dismiss science as nonsense - I dismiss evolution as nonsense.
Then you have a problem with science as well. ToE is one of the strongest and best-supported theories in natural science.

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It cannot be observed, falsified, or explained logically.
It has been observed. It can very easily be falsified - Lord Kelvin did so, for instance. (His assumptions were wrong, but the logic of his argument was bullet-proof.) And it's perfectly logical.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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Who is the individual that was around 50 or however million years a go you think the first single cell organism developed and who was still around millions of years later able to record observations made of that cell becoming a complex organism such as a human being?
Notice how the goalposts were discreetly moved from "evolution has not been observed" to "the same individual hasn't been around to observe the complete evolution of man"?

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Where are the transitional fossils?
All fossils are transitional.

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How come the theory of evolution wars with the idea that mutations are generally destructive not constructive?
It doesn't. The entire concept is hinged on the idea that some genetic changes are beneficial, some not. Natural selection will weed out the less well adapted.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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Which is fundamental to science, and a religion's enemy.
No threat to my beliefs

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No, just natural. Why must a new discovery be always deemed super natural?
If it were witnessed it would go against all the natural laws as we know them. I dont remember new discoveries being deemed supernatural but a whole new set of physical laws is pushing it. Either way its all good and I'm not here to dispute science but there is a point where it falls off speculation enters and that leaves the door open. So they will allow for a student to speculate intelligent design, big whoop unless the science community is usure of itself they shouldnt be worried. Afterall they got all the facts right?
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:08 PM
 
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Darwinism is the only theory the left want taught but refuses to allow to actually be practiced.
That's just silly. You may as well complain that people won't "practice" photosynthesis or relativity.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:08 PM
 
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If it were witnessed it would go against all the natural laws as we know them. I dont remember new discoveries being deemed supernatural but a whole new set of physical laws is pushing it. Either way its all good and I'm not here to dispute science but there is a point where it falls off speculation enters and that leaves the door open. So they will allow for a student to speculate intelligent design, big whoop unless the science community is usure of itself they shouldnt be worried. Afterall they got all the facts right?
Teaching pseudoscience as science is destructive.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:09 PM
 
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Teaching pseudoscience as science is destructive.
Who's teaching pseudoscience?
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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Who's teaching pseudoscience?
Anyone who teaches "Intelligent design" as science.

Anyone who teaches "Creationism" as science.

Might as well teach kids about the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

http://www.venganza.org/
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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If it were witnessed it would go against all the natural laws as we know them.
There is no such thing as "supernatural" in Science.

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I dont remember new discoveries being deemed supernatural but a whole new set of physical laws is pushing it.
Something along the lines of Quantum Laws? There you have it.

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I'm not here to dispute science but there is a point where it falls off speculation enters and that leaves the door open. So they will allow for a student to speculate intelligent design, big whoop unless the science community is usure of itself they shouldnt be worried. Afterall they got all the facts right?
What is there to speculate about "intelligent design"? That a bunch of Gods (and demons) came to earth, churned a pre-mordial soup and life came out of it? Is that the idea to be taught and presented as Science?

Clearly, you're not disputing Science, you're mixing Science and religion. Thank Brahma, the Creator!
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:24 PM
 
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Thank Brahma, the Creator!
Heathen! Clearly, the world and all life was created by Odin, the All-Father, from the body of the slain giant Ymir.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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Heathen! Clearly, the world and all life was created by Odin, the All-Father, from the body of the slain giant Ymir.
My Intelligent Designer is Better than Yours. You shall burn in hell.
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