No major republican office holder or nominee is proposing banning birth control (economy, national debt)
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Many women cannot afford it.
What do you propose that they do?
Many people cannot afford many things. That doesn't mean someone else should be forced to provide it for them. I propose that if one wants something one cannot currently afford, then one should find a way to either earn more money or spend less on other things so one can buy the thing they want.
Many people cannot afford many things. That doesn't mean someone else should be forced to provide it for them. I propose that if one wants something one cannot currently afford, then one should find a way to either earn more money or spend less on other things so one can buy the thing they want.
Employer based insurance is not the same as getting something for free. The person in question is doing a job in exchange for the benefit.
You make it sound like women's health care is in the same league as ordering HBO as an extra in your cable channel list. It isn't.
Many people cannot afford many things. That doesn't mean someone else should be forced to provide it for them. I propose that if one wants something one cannot currently afford, then one should find a way to either earn more money or spend less on other things so one can buy the thing they want.
This is about as myopic an answer is anything I have seen this morning.
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Originally Posted by FinsterRufus
Employer based insurance is not the same as getting something for free. The person in question is doing a job in exchange for the benefit.
You make it sound like women's health care is in the same league as ordering HBO as an extra in your cable channel list. It isn't.
Employer based insurance is not the same as getting something for free. The person in question is doing a job in exchange for the benefit.
You make it sound like women's health care is in the same league as ordering HBO as an extra in your cable channel list. It isn't.
You seem to think that all insurance ought to be employer based, and further that government ought to be able to dictate to employers what insurance they must provide. I do not believe this at all. I believe that ones insurance ought to have nothing to do with ones employment except that employers might VOLUNTARILY CHOOSE to offer insurance as a a benefit to their employees. As such, they should be free to offer whatever insurance coverage they want, and to refuse to offer whatever coverage they want to refuse. Employees would then be free to CHOOSE to work there or not, and to accept that offer of compensation or not, knowing full well what is covered and what is not. It would then fall on the employee to arrange for the purchase or insurance coverage of any items not included in that plan. Some will choose to get insurance coverage for birth control, which insurance would have no connection to their employment, while others would simply purchase it with cash from their paychecks. The same would be true for the purchase of cold medications, contact lenses, hearing aids, etc, etc.
This is about as myopic an answer is anything I have seen this morning.
This.
Please explain to me why it is "myopic" to think that one should expect to pay for the things one wants, instead of expecting someone else to be forced to buy it for them.
Please explain to me why it is "myopic" to think that one should expect to pay for the things one wants, instead of expecting someone else to be forced to buy it for them.
I'm supposed to recap everything that has been said in this thread for you?
Try reading the thread instead.
I'm supposed to recap everything that has been said in this thread for you?
Try reading the thread instead.
Not a single post in the thread has addressed a reason or rationale for giving people the things they want for free. If you insist that's incorrect, please reference the post number that discusses it. Or feel free to provide a reason of your own.
Not a single post in the thread has addressed a reason or rationale for giving people the things they want for free. If you insist that's incorrect, please reference the post number that discusses it. Or feel free to provide a reason of your own.
Ahh, but they weren't in this thread before, were they?
Guess I won't wait for the apology.
And neither of those threads gives a good reason for one to expect others to pay for their birth control. The one argues that, since sex is a human imperative and not just a fun recreational activity, and since birth control is cheaper than abortion or overpopulation, birth control ought to be "free". By that logic, shouldn't food be free too? And housing? Well, NOTHING is free. Therefore, the user of the product should be the one paying for it.
And the other starts with a lie for a headline. Mr. Mconnell never suggested a ban on birth control, he said that no company should be forced to provide it, and that any company offering insurance ought to be allowed to refuse to cover any particular item they want. HUGE difference.
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