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Old 01-15-2012, 08:58 AM
 
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i keep reading post about having an ID for VOTING.

What most have missed is that it ALSO includes REGISTERING TO VOTE.

I am sure we have all heard about the many voter fraud scams that have been going on for years.

ACORN come to mind?

An excellent Letter To THE Editor from my local paper"

"Voter fraud can’t be denied By Herb Hostetler
(http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2012/01/13/2599781/voter-fraud-cant-be-denied.html# - broken link) (http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2012/01/13/2599781/voter-fraud-cant-be-denied.html# - broken link)



Re Jan. 1 article, “GOP candidates take aim at S.C. voter ID ruling”
This article stated, “several studies indicate that voter fraud in the United States is negligible.”
Webster’s II New College Dictionary defines fraud as: “b. one who pretends to be what he or she is not.” The radical liberal-progressives are only able to come to that conclusion by redefining voter fraud to exclude registration fraud. The voter fraud deniers, from Lori Minnite (professor of political science at Barnard College), The League of Women Voters and the NAACP to the Eric Holder DOJ all use this twisted redefining of election fraud.



Tell that to the people of the 20 states now conducting criminal investigations of election fraud during the 2008 presidential campaign, led by Pennsylvania with 57,000 alleged cases of registration fraud carried on by now convicted employees of ACORN and their affiliates.
Tell that to the Congress that defunded ACORN by legislation signed into law by President Obama. At least 55 employees or associates have been convicted of registration fraud in 11 states (Capital Research Center).
Tell that to the Supreme Court that upheld Indiana’s voter ID law, the most restrictive in the U.S., by a 6-3 vote in which Justice Brennan wrote in the majority opinion: “That flagrant examples of [voter] fraud … have been documented throughout this nation’s history by respected historians and journalists …demonstrate[s] that not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it could affect the outcome of a close election.”
Tell that to the voters in Mississippi where an NAACP official in Tunica County was convicted on 10 counts of absentee voter fraud in July 2011.
An American University survey in Maryland, Indiana and Mississippi found that less than one-half of 1 percent of registered voters lacked a government-issued ID. A 2006 survey of more than 36,000 voters found that only “23 people in the entire sample … were unable to vote because of an ID requirement.” Every state that has passed a voter ID law has also ensured that every eligible voter without a photo ID can easily attain one free if they cannot afford one.
Black voter turnout in Georgia in the 2006 midterm election was 42.9 percent and after they passed their photo ID law increased to 50.4 percent in the 2010 midterm. Black turnout also rose in Indiana and Mississippi after photo IDs were required. Researchers at the universities of Delaware and Nebraska examined election data from 2000-2006 and concluded, “Concerns about voter identification laws affecting turnout are much ado about nothing.”
The only serious question is the one quoted in the article by Newt Gingrich, “why is it that they are so desperate to retain the ability to steal elections?”

Read more here: Voter fraud can’t be denied - Opinion - Letters to the editor - TheSunNews.com (http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2012/01/13/2599781/voter-fraud-cant-be-denied.html#storylink=cpy - broken link)



Read more here: Voter fraud can’t be denied - Opinion - Letters to the editor - TheSunNews.com (http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2012/01/13/2599781/voter-fraud-cant-be-denied.html#storylink=cpy - broken link)
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:03 AM
 
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I provided a link showing that the states that require ID also give people FREE state ids so they can vote
That's good then. If that's the case and the laws are simply to make sure voter fraud doesn't happen then I'm all for it. If the laws are for making it harder for certain groups of people, then I have a problem.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:08 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Where is this? If driving a car, one must produce the driver's license. If riding a bus, or walking down the street, not so much.

Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Wisconsin.

A SCOTUS case, Terry v. Ohio, in 1968 set up the detain on suspiscion allowance while a case, Hibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, added the name requirement.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:09 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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The Republican Party should be allowed to require a photo ID, if it so desires, for participation in what should be considered a purely party function... the choosing of its nominee for the presidential election. This specific nomination process is a Republican concern; just as the nomination for a Libertarian candidate is strictly a Libertarian Party concern; as is a Green Party nomination its own concern; etc.

I am not a registered anything; so, what the Republican Party chooses to do for its own membership is its business, not mine.
You mean that you feel it is none of your business when the Democrats bring in people not eligible to vote to their elections, and by extension, the national elections? You support breaking the law where it applies to the voting franchise?
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Correct. When republicans die, they go to hell... no chance of returning to vote.
Equally, when democrats die, they go to Chicago and continue to vote forever.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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The US Constitution doesn't require it.
It also does not require that women, minorities or to be at least 18 years old to vote. Do you want to change that?
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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I'm more concerned with folks looking at it and getting to decide if it's actually the person in front of them.

Most of the poll workers are old ladies who may have cataracts.
Inaccurate sterotyping showing a certain bias.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:20 AM
 
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We have a constitutional right to vote, regardless of whether or not we own a government-issued identification.
Does this apply to children? How about felons? People who are not residents of this country or have not qualified under the statutes as being eligible?

Your statement has some holes in it.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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But you vote as a US Citizen, under the rules prescribed in the US Constitution. A state doesn't give you the authority to vote. A state can't tell a person that he/she can or cannot vote, the nation does.

But then, you're a subscriber to... do as I say, not as I do.
I call BS on that....


"What is the voter registration deadline?"


"Your application must be received in the Voter Registrar’s office or postmarked at least 30 days before an election in order to be eligible to vote in that election."

Texas Voting Information
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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What do illegals have to do with excessive barriers to your right to vote? This would be far less despicable if the onus wasn't on those with the least ability to take off work, with the fewest means to meet these new requirements, or with the least familiarity with voting requirements to jump through hoops to exercise their rights.

This is another example of conservatives infringing on civil rights at the voting booths.
So some "voting requirements" are alright, but others are not? Like proving you have met the requirements?

Trying to have it both ways?
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