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But a C average at Harvard may be quite different then a A average at your local community college.
You are talking about a complex system, as if it would be simple. Rationing anything on a public basis means abuse. It isn't as simple as "if you keep x amount of an average, we'll pay for this much of your education".
And technically, most people are required to pay back their student loans, and grants if they don't finish their degree. And that money isn't even able to be cleared through bankruptcy.
Then why do we have all those entrance exams like the GMAT? I may be one of those rare individuals that took a GMAT, and the entrance exam at Devry. After I took the test at Devry, I was certain I did not miss a single item. It was like riding Willy Wonka's glass elevator, and I had to turn Willy down because it confirmed to me they set the bar low. It was obviously a for profit school trying to maximize profits.
If our university system cannot design tests to hold down demand from idiots, then the system itself isn't worth a crap either. The cost should not be rising above the general inflation rate. If it is, then it becomes a source of rent for the finance industry.
Then why do we have all those entrance exams like the GMAT? I may be one of those rare individuals that took a GMAT, and the entrance exam at Devry. After I took the test at Devry, I was certain I did not miss a single item. It was like riding Willy Wonka's glass elevator, and I had to turn Willy down because it confirmed to me they set the bar low. It was obviously a for profit school trying to maximize profits.
If our university system cannot design tests to hold down demand from idiots, then the system itself isn't worth a crap either. The cost should not be rising above the general inflation rate. If it is, then it becomes a source of rent for the finance industry.
There are a lot of entrance exams. I took them when I went to college. But you don't get one cent of public money or loans until you can pass the entrance exam.
Almost every kid must pass an entrance exam before going to college, of some kind. So all of those kids, those just out to get drunk and laid, all passed an entrance exam.
Glenn Reynolds, UTenn law professor and blogger at InstaPundit has had an ongoing topic about increased costs of a college ed.
Seems parts of the problem might include un-needed buildings that cost too much, tenured professors who get paid too much, and a growing number of administrators.
You might look up his web page and do some research there for insight into the problem.
Stop building professional quality stadiums and programs, as well as state of the art medical facilities on college campuses.
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Those sport complexes generally bring in more money annually then the entire university does from tuition.
Food for thought.
yep, the university of arizona brings in about $77 million per year through its athletic activities, and they rank around number 50 or so in athletic revenue.
if we are going to reduce college costs, we need to stop government loan guarantees, and we need to just tell some people that college is not for them and that they should be looking at technical schools instead.
I think it would help if employers quit requiring degrees for even menial jobs. Even a decade ago many of these jobs had no such requirement, and this only perpetuates the problem of everyone thinking they must get a college degree. Honestly, very few professions need one when it gets right down to it.
Also pouring more money into K-12 aint the answer for our public school system.
I can't imagine leaving college with $100,000 of debt. Kids these days would be better off finding a factory job after high school and buying a house. As long as you're going to be in debt, you might as well get something for your money.
Kids who graduate from college will have to pay off their Student Loans and a mortgage.
Go to an inexpensive public college, work part-time, and take a little longer doing it.
I think it would help if employers quit requiring degrees for even menial jobs. Even a decade ago many of these jobs had no such requirement, and this only perpetuates the problem of everyone thinking they must get a college degree. Honestly, very few professions need one when it gets right down to it.
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What he said.
College institutions have become too monstrous and too big for their own good. Perhaps of fewer people went and were pushed into trade schools or apprenticeships, you'd starve the system and force reform that way? In other words, cut the umbilical cord. There are too many people with the same business degree, which is why employers now ask for a BA, even for mundane jobs that a high school dropout could most likely do with ease.
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How Can We Reduce The Cost Of Going To College?
