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Old 10-14-2011, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Obama Talked About "Fast & Furious" Months Before Holder Claimed He Knew | RealClearPolitics

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Then CNN compares Holder's testimony to what President Obama said in MARCH to CNN Espanol about the operation. "I heard on the news about this story that -- Fast and Furious, where allegedly guns were being run into Mexico, and ATF knew about it, but didn't apprehend those who had sent it." Transcript of the segment that aired on "John King USA" below:
Now, DO recall Holder said just recently that he heard about the program just a few weeks before it broke.

Obviously, he must have talked to obama about back in March of this year.

Caught in the LIE!

Breitbart.tv » How Did Obama Know About ‘Fast And Furious’ Before Holder?
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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My take on this, Holder is the USAG, his duty is to lead those agencies, and provide oversight of those various DoJ departments. At the very freaking least, if he wants to claim ignorance, then he was grossly negligent, and inept, to have allowed something as amazingly stupid as to sanction gun trafficing to the Mexican drug cartel.

When Holder found out last year, that US federal agents and Mexican citizens were being murdered, with weapons that were traced back to operation Fast & Furious, he had a duty as the USAG to become as informed on everything involved with F&F, as quickly, and as detailed as possible.

Even if he wants to play the game of "I'm to freaking ignorant and stupid," when Holder was asked to testify before the US Congress about F&F, at a very minimum, he should have demanded the the DoJ provide him with all memos or emails that were addressed to ERIC HOLDER that referenced "Fast and Furious".

Instead....... Holder thinks we should except his playing the fool, the ignorant, clueless, and grossly incompetent AG. In essence, Holder wants us to believe that he such a colossal joke as AG, that he does not know what is going on in his own departments, allows rogue underlings to run gun trafficing programs under his nose, and that he lacks even a modicum of curiosity, when news reports link the DoJ to the deaths of federal agents and civilians.

Even if Eric Holder is as stupid, ignorant, clueless and dangerously incompetent, as he expects us all to believe he is, then 0bama should fired him back in 2010, when it was learned that border agent Brian Terry was killed with F&F weapons.

Not only are we to believe that Holder was clueless and incurious after Terry was murdered, but so was 0bama. Holder was not moved enough by Terry's murder to learn about what the hell was going on with Fast & Furious, and 0bama wasn't moved enough to ask him about it.
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Can't help but wonder, if Eric Holder had an (R) next to his name, would liberals be defending him then?
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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holder is a crook...has been for a long time

a) marc rich pardon
b) Holder was also involved in Clinton's decision to reduce the criminal sentences of 16 members of the Boricua Popular Army, an organization that has been categorized by the FBI as a terrorist organization.
c) waco
d) elian gonzalas
e) the pardons of the FALN
f) ruby ridge
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:03 AM
 
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Hitler finds out CBS is reporting on Operation Fast and Furious - YouTube
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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My take on this, Holder is the USAG, his duty is to lead those agencies, and provide oversight of those various DoJ departments. At the very freaking least, if he wants to claim ignorance, then he was grossly negligent, and inept, to have allowed something as amazingly stupid as to sanction gun trafficing to the Mexican drug cartel.

When Holder found out last year, that US federal agents and Mexican citizens were being murdered, with weapons that were traced back to operation Fast & Furious, he had a duty as the USAG to become as informed on everything involved with F&F, as quickly, and as detailed as possible.

Even if he wants to play the game of "I'm to freaking ignorant and stupid," when Holder was asked to testify before the US Congress about F&F, at a very minimum, he should have demanded the the DoJ provide him with all memos or emails that were addressed to ERIC HOLDER that referenced "Fast and Furious".

Instead....... Holder thinks we should except his playing the fool, the ignorant, clueless, and grossly incompetent AG. In essence, Holder wants us to believe that he such a colossal joke as AG, that he does not know what is going on in his own departments, allows rogue underlings to run gun trafficing programs under his nose, and that he lacks even a modicum of curiosity, when news reports link the DoJ to the deaths of federal agents and civilians.

Even if Eric Holder is as stupid, ignorant, clueless and dangerously incompetent, as he expects us all to believe he is, then 0bama should fired him back in 2010, when it was learned that border agent Brian Terry was killed with F&F weapons.

Not only are we to believe that Holder was clueless and incurious after Terry was murdered, but so was 0bama. Holder was not moved enough by Terry's murder to learn about what the hell was going on with Fast & Furious, and 0bama wasn't moved enough to ask him about it.
How dumb is this.. to give guns to drug lords.. no wonder the killings are so numerous!

Next they will be giving poppy seeds and pot seeds to grow.. and vehicles with guns attached to transport the drugs.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:15 AM
 
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How dumb is this.. to give guns to drug lords.. no wonder the killings are so numerous!

Next they will be giving poppy seeds and pot seeds to grow.. and vehicles with guns attached to transport the drugs.
Gosh, it might even be like using US military to guard poppy fields in Pakistan or Afghanistan for the heroin trade of Europe.

Who says these federal agencies are not enabling the drug cartels to run drugs into the US into major cities already? It would be completely humiliating if this administration was caught in its own Iran-Contra type gun & drug running operation wouldn't it? What is the larger agenda at hand?

Follow the money........

Last edited by lifelongMOgal; 10-14-2011 at 10:41 AM.. Reason: typo
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Holder's done. If Obama's statement directly contradicts him then one of them is lying. We all know he'll get thrown under the bus. It's standard operating procedure in this administration.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Holder's done. If Obama's statement directly contradicts him then one of them is lying. We all know he'll get thrown under the bus. It's standard operating procedure in this administration.
Yeah, who's going to force the issue? We know the media would be all over this if it were Bush, demanding accountability. With the obama-media, he can just wait til it goes away.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:13 AM
 
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Just wait and unceremoniously the great orator will dismiss Holder or he'll step down late on a friday evening so as to not hit the news cycle and folks will go off for the weekend come back and see a buried story and say hmmmm and move on. Nothing to see here is the message they will and are sending. Holder will take the fall and it won't be much of one. The media was all over gonzo for every little thing. It's sickening they will get away with this. Two murders on the books already from this ignorant move and more to come I'm sure. Doubt we'll be hearing about it though.
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